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Crow- 4 ABR 2024 a las 14:05
balanced food?
What are the top food choices for the end game(Plains+++)?
Currently running padded helm/root chest/fenrir legs/lox cape..for the weapons..its sword and board mostly.
Publicado originalmente por Nerevar:
there is 4 meta food combos that depend on what you wanna do since mistlands update.

2 hp 1 stamina. the common melee standard. honey glazed chicken. misthare supreme. salad are the foods used.

2 stamina 1 hp. see above but replace hare supreme with mushroom omlette. rest remains the same.

1 hp 1 eitr 1 stam. the trinity. salad. honey glazed. seeker aspic. allows the quick and easy use of fireballs from the staff on demand without getting weak on melee or relying on the bubblestaff to survive.

triple eitr combo. self explanatory as only 3 eitr foods exist currently so no choice there at all. relys 100% on the staff of protection bubble to be active nonstop or you will get oneshot by certain enemies. requires leveling up blood magic to really shine.

honey glazed and salad are meta foods because of how easy they are to mass produce without haveing to hunt anything and with minimal farming required. fish and bread is never worth the effort as the bonus just doesnt justify the massive time difference needed to farm alot of it. and mushroom omlette is a bad investment resource wise as you get triple the amount of salad for just 5 stamina and 1 hp difference. so its only used if you want to run 2 stamina foods.

seeker aspic is the best eitr food and on top the easiest one to mass produce aswell. so its a no brainer for now.

this is all CURRENT endgame. will of course change with ashlands. if honey glazed gets replaced depends on how difficulty ashlands hp foods will be to make and how much bonus hp they will provide. mistlands hp foods where not much upgrade over serpent stew for example. but they are easier to make in masses compared as you dont need to hunt rare serpent meat for them anymore.

given the progression so far its safe to assume the max values for each food will atleast reach 100 in each of the 3 categories. slightly more for stamina maybe. eitr is hard to judge since it had no progression between biomes yet. depends greatly on the new magic tools and what eitr costs they come with.
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Zombits (Bloqueado) 4 ABR 2024 a las 20:54 
I hate quoting so...

you can only eat meals at half time, so I was hoping the 30 mins food will be more effective while exploring . no ideas which ONE IS after 10- 15 mins.

I rarely ever play at night btw. it's not a factor to me. but a food duration might help when you're still out there in the evening
Última edición por Zombits; 4 ABR 2024 a las 20:56
Faceplant 4 ABR 2024 a las 21:09 
Publicado originalmente por Nerevar:
Publicado originalmente por Faceplant8:

Noted.

Just curious how much you've actually played running triple HP to come to that opinion.

its just the simple fact that with 2 hp foods you can just survive a hit from about anything. so the excess hp will never help you. meanwhile the higher stamina will as better weapons use more stamina aswell so you can attack alot less when you only have about 100 stamina. is it playable ? yes. is it useful overall? no.

We could debate this, but you seem to be very closed minded, so I don't think it would help.

Saying that you can survive a hit from about anything with 2 hp foods is ludicrous on it's surface, since it makes a whole host of assumptions. You just have to ask yourself if you've ever died while eating 2 hp food to see how silly it is.

I'm sure your playstyle relies on having excess stamina to survive, but not everyone is you, so making blanket statements about others, especially others who have played this playstyle for over 3000 hours, is not productive.
Zombits (Bloqueado) 4 ABR 2024 a las 21:19 
Publicado originalmente por Nerevar:
Publicado originalmente por Zombits:
never tried ever 3 hp food unless a mistake.

it's a very interesting tactic I could try in hardcore maybe. almost nothing could stagger you.

hardcore is a death penalty. not an enemy difficulty setting.

you mean "very hard" and lets just say i tested that. forget about it. even with 3 hp foods anything 1 or 2 star WILL stagger you no matter what on that setting if its in the same biome. so you cannot take these hits ever in on very hard. so dont think for 1 moment it wouldnt stagger you. it still will. the dmg boost of starred enemies on very hard is just silly and the devs didnt balance these settings at all. its best to avoid all dmg there at all times possible unless you outgear the enemy faced big time.

very hard combat settings indeed, that's what I use. made a world on hardcore but customized death penalty one step down, which is punishing enough , for my taste lol..

I recently was staggered by normal wolves on first hit . adding a serpent stew to trio fixed it.

stagger is a main cause for death, and it depends on HP, not armor. armor is like a second defence layer ?

good challenge so far
Última edición por Zombits; 4 ABR 2024 a las 21:23
jonnin 4 ABR 2024 a las 22:38 
best foods are well covered, but to me best day-to-day food is a balance between effort to produce in bulk vs ability to meander in any zone without dying (assuming you are in mistlands here). That usually puts me with a salad or maybe bread, grilled bug meat, and +1 for whatever else I have a lot of, could be as simple as fish wraps or grilled lox.

there are better foods, but they all take a lot more effort and I have better things to do. If killing a boss, I will use the better stuff (breaded angler fish, meat platter, etc).
Última edición por jonnin; 4 ABR 2024 a las 22:39
Faceplant 4 ABR 2024 a las 23:58 
Publicado originalmente por Nerevar:
Publicado originalmente por Zombits:
never tried ever 3 hp food unless a mistake.

it's a very interesting tactic I could try in hardcore maybe. almost nothing could stagger you.

hardcore is a death penalty. not an enemy difficulty setting.

you mean "very hard" and lets just say i tested that. forget about it. even with 3 hp foods anything 1 or 2 star WILL stagger you no matter what on that setting if its in the same biome. so you cannot take these hits ever in on very hard. so dont think for 1 moment it wouldnt stagger you. it still will. the dmg boost of starred enemies on very hard is just silly and the devs didnt balance these settings at all. its best to avoid all dmg there at all times possible unless you outgear the enemy faced big time.

If you have enough health, stagger isn't necessarily a death penalty unless there's a second mob there to finish you off. I haven't found a way to not be staggered by a 2* fuling on hard mode, and they've rung my bell many times, but I've killed plenty of them, and not using ranged weapons or dodge roll (I don't do that).

I agree that very hard difficulty is very difficult, but isn't that why we play these games? Why would the devs balance the most difficult mode to make it easier? Some of us like the challenge.
blackphoenixx 5 ABR 2024 a las 0:49 
Publicado originalmente por Faceplant8:
Mushrooms are more rare

They're really not. You probably ran across half a dozen patches before even entering the black forest.

They just can't be planted so you have to mark them on your map and run around to pick them, but once you've got a decent route you can pick up a stack in 10-15 minutes.
Do it in a black forest and you can combine it with a thistle & blueberry run too for extra efficiency.

You can set your vegetation details to low in the graphics options to make it easier to see them the first time.
Faceplant 5 ABR 2024 a las 0:58 
Publicado originalmente por blackphoenixx:
Publicado originalmente por Faceplant8:
Mushrooms are more rare

They're really not. You probably ran across half a dozen patches before even entering the black forest.

They just can't be planted so you have to mark them on your map and run around to pick them, but once you've got a decent route you can pick up a stack in 10-15 minutes.
Do it in a black forest and you can combine it with a thistle & blueberry run too for extra efficiency.

You can set your vegetation details to low in the graphics options to make it easier to see them the first time.

I start picking and hording them when I first start, and I eventually have many stacks, but then I move away from black forest and use them for wolf skewers and serpent stew, so they eventually dwindle.

By endgame they're gone, and I'm not going to make special trips to Black Forest just to pick mushrooms (I play no-portal).

For me, endgame, they're rare.
blackphoenixx 5 ABR 2024 a las 0:59 
Publicado originalmente por Faceplant8:
By endgame they're gone, and I'm not going to make special trips to Black Forest just to pick mushrooms (I play no-portal).
Yeah no-portal is a different beast. I wouldn't sail half an hour for a stack of mushrooms either.
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