Fist weapons

[Lorska]

So can we assume now that fist weapons have been completely abandoned?
This marks the third biome in a row without any fist weapon so why does it even exist as a skill or weapon type?
It seems like a complete noob trap at this point...

[Lucidess]

Have you tried kicking things?
It's hilarious.

[Happy]

I still to this day refuse to make Flesh Rippers, such a waste of time. If they really wanted players to get up skills in fists they would introduce an earlier variant made of bronze or something.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

At only level 40-50 my fists do enough damage I don't have to make a weapon until I'm past swamps.
Which is mountains at that point and Flesh Rippers are plenty great for taking out fulings until you can get something better.
Underrated skill, saves you a ton of time and resources if you don't want to bother with weapon crafting for a bit.

[Mharr]

Originally posted by Lucidess:

Have you tried kicking things?
It's hilarious.

All I want in this game is an item that doubles kick's yeet power. And maybe a world key for fall damage multiplier.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Mharr:

Originally posted by Lucidess:

Have you tried kicking things?
It's hilarious.

All I want in this game is an item that doubles kick's yeet power. And maybe a world key for fall damage multiplier.

itll be a new BOOT weapon and its tooltip will read "THIS" "IS" " VALHEIM"

[Lorska]

Originally posted by Mystic:

At only level 40-50 my fists do enough damage I don't have to make a weapon until I'm past swamps.
Which is mountains at that point and Flesh Rippers are plenty great for taking out fulings until you can get something better.
Underrated skill, saves you a ton of time and resources if you don't want to bother with weapon crafting for a bit.

correct me if I'm wrong but at 50 skill you fists should somewhere between 4 and 8 damage.
What do you mean enough damage until you are past swamps?
I'd wager the time you waste not killing enemies completely offsets the time required to craft a weapon...
Are you casually punching bonemass to death because you are bored?
just collect 6 wood and craft a club that does twice as much damage un-upgraded if you're too lazy?

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Originally posted by Lorska:

Originally posted by Mystic:

At only level 40-50 my fists do enough damage I don't have to make a weapon until I'm past swamps.
Which is mountains at that point and Flesh Rippers are plenty great for taking out fulings until you can get something better.
Underrated skill, saves you a ton of time and resources if you don't want to bother with weapon crafting for a bit.

correct me if I'm wrong but at 50 skill you fists should somewhere between 4 and 8 damage.
What do you mean enough damage until you are past swamps?
I'd wager the time you waste not killing enemies completely offsets the time required to craft a weapon...
Are you casually punching bonemass to death because you are bored?
just collect 6 wood and craft a club that does twice as much damage un-upgraded if you're too lazy?

Idk, I've never bothered to check math or values.
All I know is my fists do around 50-60 damage a hit I think.
Equipping a club basically makes me do less damage, which is a bit silly.

[Lorska]

Originally posted by Mystic:

Idk, I've never bothered to check math or values.
All I know is my fists do around 50-60 damage a hit I think.
Equipping a club basically makes me do less damage, which is a bit silly.

Dude chill I almost spat out my drink there.
You either have a VERY modded game or you are reading the damage numbers very wrong.
That's the damage the fenris claws would do, an unarmed fist hit does at most 5 or 10 damage a hit (depending on the hit chain) at skill level 75.

edit: maybe your game settings are on easy but even that wouldn't make you do 10x the damage.

[xDDD]

Really is a mist opportunity that they didn't do the "Fist of Mist" or something.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Originally posted by Lorska:

Originally posted by Mystic:

Idk, I've never bothered to check math or values.
All I know is my fists do around 50-60 damage a hit I think.
Equipping a club basically makes me do less damage, which is a bit silly.

Dude chill I almost spat out my drink there.
You either have a VERY modded game or you are reading the damage numbers very wrong.
That's the damage the fenris claws would do, an unarmed fist hit does at most 5 or 10 damage a hit (depending on the hit chain) at skill level 75.

edit: maybe your game settings are on easy but even that wouldn't make you do 10x the damage.

I think you are reading too much into how I'm saying it. I merely stated my experience. I have no mods that change how unarmed damage works. My game has all regular modifiers except raids are disabled.
I did overestimate my damage though, I do around 25-50 with 1st-2nd punch.

I also forgot that Fenris armor further enhances your unarmed damage by 15 skill levels, so you can do even more.

I can do around the same damage as a Tier 3, maybe 4, Iron Mace.

So that's why I can punch my way through Mountains.
With Flesh Rippers that are tied to Unarmed Skill, I can do pretty high damage with them, not sure how high. I know that with just Fenris Blessing and Fists I can hit for 120+ on 2nd punch against a Stone Golem.
But in Plains I'm currently working to get a Shield and some one-hander, since Flesh Rippers don't really have enough parry bonus to compete with the mobs there.

[Zombits]

Knives competely removes the reason to use flesh rippers

[cAipi_rInHa]

tbh fistweapons are by far the most fun to play for me. With 50 + 15 in "Fists" and Lev 4 Fleshrippers characters deal like 60 dmg with the first hit. 2nd and 3rd do more. The kick skills with weapon too, deals like 60 dmg and offsets many enemies with the first hit.
Also Fleshrippers have 6x Dmg Backstab Bonus which can often be used without sneaking. Just run towards enemies that havent spottet you and deal like 400 dmg with first hit, its pretty fun and works well with incredible move speed. Fleshrippers dont slow you down and Fenris Set even gives a total of 9% movement speed.

Originally posted by Zombits:

Knives competely removes the reason to use flesh rippers

nah. Played with knives until I used fleshrippers for the first time. Knives are trash unless you use silver and only fight undead ^^

[cAipi_rInHa]

Originally posted by Lorska:

edit: maybe your game settings are on easy but even that wouldn't make you do 10x the damage.

He ist talking about fistweapons, not unarmed. I didnt mod a thing and didnt change any settings and have the same numbers on first hits without backstab bonus.

[Zombits]

plain and simple , flesh rippers are bad weapons, similar to woodcutting axes. it's just a fun toy .

I once farmed spawners in swamp skilling every weapon types including fists. those are the 2 that had zero benefit compared to others for melee on a same tier. In fact flesh rippers and wc axes are prone to get you killed

[JP_Russell]

Originally posted by Mystic:

Originally posted by Lorska:

Dude chill I almost spat out my drink there.
You either have a VERY modded game or you are reading the damage numbers very wrong.
That's the damage the fenris claws would do, an unarmed fist hit does at most 5 or 10 damage a hit (depending on the hit chain) at skill level 75.

edit: maybe your game settings are on easy but even that wouldn't make you do 10x the damage.

I think you are reading too much into how I'm saying it. I merely stated my experience. I have no mods that change how unarmed damage works. My game has all regular modifiers except raids are disabled.
I did overestimate my damage though, I do around 25-50 with 1st-2nd punch.

I also forgot that Fenris armor further enhances your unarmed damage by 15 skill levels, so you can do even more.

I can do around the same damage as a Tier 3, maybe 4, Iron Mace.

So that's why I can punch my way through Mountains.
With Flesh Rippers that are tied to Unarmed Skill, I can do pretty high damage with them, not sure how high. I know that with just Fenris Blessing and Fists I can hit for 120+ on 2nd punch against a Stone Golem.
But in Plains I'm currently working to get a Shield and some one-hander, since Flesh Rippers don't really have enough parry bonus to compete with the mobs there.

Something has changed how the fists skill works in your game without you realizing, then.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Fists_(Skill)

The max damage fists can do from level 75 to 100 normally is 5, so the skill isn't really underrated for most players. It's always been considered pretty worthless for a reason, with the frost caves update giving it some minor value for a time.

Originally posted by cAipi_rInHa:

Originally posted by Lorska:

edit: maybe your game settings are on easy but even that wouldn't make you do 10x the damage.

He ist talking about fistweapons, not unarmed. I didnt mod a thing and didnt change any settings and have the same numbers on first hits without backstab bonus.

He is talking about unarmed. He said fists deal around 25 to 50 damage on the first to second hit, then said that he can hit with flesh rippers for over 120 damage on the second hit against a golem (which has 50% resistance to the slash damage of flesh rippers, so he should have even higher damage against other enemies), so there is a clear distinction being made there between his damage with unarmed fists and his damage with flesh rippers.