How to use carts and any tips? Please help!

[cainboy]

I've only got about 40h into the game, so I dont know if i'm just BAD or just confused on how to use the cart.

I have 180 silver ore i'm TRYING to get to my smelters which is like half a biome away, but I cant drag the fking thing through the dark forest. even with the hoe smoothing out the terrain and clearing the shrubs, I burnt 150 stamina with eikthyr and got up a slight incline about half a roll distance, and immedietely rolled back down because the fking cart doesnt want to move in any semi level to slight hill direction.

not to mention it seems to love smashing into every bush on the way. and if i have more than a small incline it will either lift me off the ground or just throw itself onto its back like a seizure induced turtle.

Any tips or help would be appreciated. I do NOT want to hand run the 180 silver ore, like 23-24 ore at a time.

[Scipio]

Asking the obvious question: Why not go by sea? Using the cart to get to/from the harbour if needed.

[cainboy]

Originally posted by Scipio:

Asking the obvious question: Why not go by sea? Using the cart to get to/from the harbour if needed.

because the sea is about 2-3x the distance from my outpost. in the opposite direction. and i dont have a base beside the sea. my starting area ended up like 10-15% of the entire planet

that said, i recognize i'm just getting tilted atm. I spent over 10 minutes and i've gotten maybe 3 rolls away from where i started?
the hoe is not doing fk all for me

[cainboy]

Originally posted by Scipio:

Asking the obvious question: Why not go by sea? Using the cart to get to/from the harbour if needed.

Also thanks. I will be bumping up my plans to make a sea side base next. I wanted to do a more big established base once I could go to the plains, but boat transport is a very strong reason why i should probably not wait lol

[hazelrah]

you're overloaded. above about 2000 lbs (kilos?, i dont remember the units) the cart becomes too heavy to move up any sort of incline. i suggest you split your load into two trips.

what i usually do when i want to transport silver is fill it to the max and just push it off a cliff toward a boat at the bottom. if it breaks, pick it all up and rebuild. its also kinda fun to latch yourself to the cart and ride it straight off the cliff :)

[Quintium]

Silver is heavy. You can get a fair good speed with only one row of silver in cart.
Why it can be easier to use the boat, even if a longer distance. because you end up with multiple trips with the cart.

What I usually do, is fill the cart and slide down the mountain with a full load (or see it tumble down the mountain :D ). Set up a portal at the base of the mountain, Store the silver in a couple of chests and only put one row in the cart. Take it to the smelter base or a boat. Have other portal at destination to quickly go back to mountain base with the broken down cart and rebuild it there.

Could build a forge station on the mountain, but then you have the problem of the other ingots, like iron, to be transported to it.

[cainboy]

Originally posted by hazelrah:

you're overloaded. above about 2000 lbs (kilos?, i dont remember the units) the cart becomes too heavy to move up any sort of incline. i suggest you split your load into two trips.

what i usually do when i want to transport silver is fill it to the max and just push it off a cliff toward a boat at the bottom. if it breaks, pick it all up and rebuild. its also kinda fun to latch yourself to the cart and ride it straight off the cliff :)

I'll give that a try, but i'm a bit paranoid with this, since i had tried that to get the silver down on my first mountain, only to have ALL of it freaking dissapear on me. i spent 2h before i gave up thinking maybe it just got flung somewhere or glitched through a rock.

Also; the Mountain i was just working on and having problems with is surrounded by dark forest and other biomes, its not exactly close to an ocean.


I'll definitely be making an Ocean side base next though, this is painful.
Not sure if i can share a pic of my world map, but like my starting island is over 10% of the entire planet.
I THOUGHT i built my base by the ocean. turns out its one of many connected lakes >.<
*(10% is the area NOT including the plains that are also connected, of which i dared not run through back in the bronze age)

[blackphoenixx]

If you need to go up an incline grab some- or everything from the cart into your inventory and slow-walk up the hill.
If you run out of stamina put it back in, let your stamina regenerate and take it back out.

A little tedious, but much faster than dropping it to the ground (or trying to get the overloaded cart up a hill).

Then when you're at the top and it's going downhill you put your ore back into the cart and go.

[blprice61]

Could build a series of "catcher's mitt" platforms down the side of the mountain. Sort of like doing the chest elevator in reverse.

PS: earlier in this thread I saw the 'build local manufacturing station' solution discarded because of taking necessary metals up the mountain... why would you do that? Build manufacturing station at bottom. Bring each metal in by the easiest path.

I believe the cart was designed and in game prior to the addition of portals. In no-portals carts fill a very different role than just hauling ores & metals. Fill a cart up with wood or stone and see how it handles - that is more of the intended performance.

[knighttemplar1960]

Build a work bench and a chest to hold the silver (put a pin on the minimap to remind you where it is), break the cart with your axe, gather the pieces, walk to the top of the hill, build a work bench, rebuild the cart (put a pin on the minimap so you don't lose track of the cart), walk to the chest, take what you can carry up to the cart and load it, repeat until the silver is all in the cart, remembering to recover your chest and work benchs if you want to.

Take the load down hill. Repeat for any other intervening hills.

[cainboy]

I built a boat cause i wanted to take you guy's advice... and then it fking disapeared. so i'm down 100 nails. the rest idm. but dang. I really suck with vehicles in this game

[JP_Russell]

Originally posted by cainboy:

I built a boat cause i wanted to take you guy's advice... and then it fking disapeared. so i'm down 100 nails. the rest idm. but dang. I really suck with vehicles in this game

Boats should never disappear in this game, so it probably got destroyed (either a mob attacked it or the tide slammed it against terrain over and over). If there were no materials where you left it, it might have been destroyed long before you got there since those should stick around for 2 hours before they disappear (or should never disappear if they're in range of a workbench, campfire, etc.).

In any case, it's generally safest with carts and boats to just destroy them when you're done with them for a while and rebuild them when you're ready to use them again.

[Packetstorm]

i recommend turning on the modifier for all items through portals on. unfortunately the devs are confused about properly designing farming mechanics in this game and even recommend it themselves (internally).

[cainboy]

Originally posted by JP_Russell:

Originally posted by cainboy:

I built a boat cause i wanted to take you guy's advice... and then it fking disapeared. so i'm down 100 nails. the rest idm. but dang. I really suck with vehicles in this game

Boats should never disappear in this game, so it probably got destroyed (either a mob attacked it or the tide slammed it against terrain over and over). If there were no materials where you left it, it might have been destroyed long before you got there since those should stick around for 2 hours before they disappear (or should never disappear if they're in range of a workbench, campfire, etc.).

In any case, it's generally safest with carts and boats to just destroy them when you're done with them for a while and rebuild them when you're ready to use them again.

I had 1 invasion, and later round the workbench that would have been near the ship destroyed... so maybe that was it T_T
thanks.... i'm just miffed since i'm nowhere near enough iron to be able to handle a 10 iron ingot loss.

Originally posted by Packetstorm:

i recommend turning on the modifier for all items through portals on. unfortunately the devs are confused about properly designing farming mechanics in this game and even recommend it themselves (internally).

I was hoping to at least beat the current content with the restrictions in place, but i'll keep that in mind..