Carts r bad

[FishLove]

Cant get 20 min without breaking the cart. Stuff everywhere. Constantly under attack. Its not hard, just frustrating.

[whiteboa321]

suppose to be hard . i mean they should had a updated cart. but Ashlands is so small . it feel alot smaller then Mist . and i for loved MIstlands before they nerfed it to the ground . the only prob that made it Hard was the terrain due to not having full directional combat . meaning you can't be higher or lower then the target . unless your using a Aoe attack .

[JP_Russell]

You can just put a workbench out periodically and repair the cart if needed. I think the biggest problem with the cart is that it slows down too quickly as it gets weighed down, causing it to have a pretty low limit on how much ore you can put in it (which is the material you'll most want a cart for) before it just becomes slower than making multiple trips. I think you could halve the rate at which it slows down with added weight (or put another way, double the weight it can handle at a given speed), and it wouldn't be OP.

[Soma]

Originally posted by JP_Russell:

You can just put a workbench out periodically and repair the cart if needed. I think the biggest problem with the cart is that it slows down too quickly as it gets weighed down, causing it to have a pretty low limit on how much ore you can put in it (which is the material you'll most want a cart for) before it just becomes slower than making multiple trips. I think you could halve the rate at which it slows down with added weight (or put another way, double the weight it can handle at a given speed), and it wouldn't be OP.

+1

I use carts early on for storage before I get Iron. Right there in my living room taking the place of multiple chests, are a couple carts.

I usually smelt near copper. My main use for cart "hauling" has been silver and sometimes iron. Your suggestion would be very welcome and still immersive.

[Draconis]

As it is right now, you can't pull a cart up a normal slope (26° stairs) as soon as it weighs more than 2000.

That is annoying, but still better than carring everything in roughly 225 weight unit steps.

So for longer distances on land I stick with 2k weight in the cart each trip or find a way with only downward sloaps (pickaxe and hoe always in my pocktes, and a hammer for repair).
For shorter distances with higher height differences (e.g. from harbor to base), I use two carts, a wall and stairs. One cart on the high ground, one low and to get it from one cart to the other.... well, if it's only the stairs, stamina will do, even with low level food. If all else fails, there's stamina mead.

Down from a mountain to a port weight becomes almost meaningless. Just pull it down the cliff and as soon as you start sliding downards, walk the opposite direction to avoid falling damage. Might require a good eye for a good way down, but as it usually goes downwards only, the weight won't be the problem. Beware the stone golems though.


AAAAAND! There is a quite funny alternative to carts. But you need a second player and a harpoon for that. You both will have to turn on PvP. One of you takes all the weight into his pockets, the other one takes the harpoon and draws you up almost everey slope at normal walking pace and without stamina problems.
So in doubt: don't use a cart - BE a cart ;-)

[JP_Russell]

Originally posted by Draconis:

AAAAAND! There is a quite funny alternative to carts. But you need a second player and a harpoon for that. You both will have to turn on PvP. One of you takes all the weight into his pockets, the other one takes the harpoon and draws you up almost everey slope at normal walking pace and without stamina problems.
So in doubt: don't use a cart - BE a cart ;-)

Alternatively, you can have one player fill their inventory, place it in the cart, jump into the cart, take all the items back into their inventory, and have the other player pull the cart with the laden player standing in it. The cart will still move like it's empty this way. You can do this before getting a harpoon and without having to turn on friendly fire, just have to be careful not to let the laden player fall out.

[Draconis]

Originally posted by JP_Russell:

Alternatively, you can have one player fill their inventory, place it in the cart, jump into the cart, take all the items back into their inventory, and have the other player pull the cart with the laden player standing in it. The cart will still move like it's empty this way. You can do this before getting a harpoon and without having to turn on friendly fire, just have to be careful not to let the player fall out.

That's a good one too :D

Oh, and there's yet another, albeit very situational... The cart's weight is fully ignored once it starts to float in water. And it floats before the player does (if I remember correctly), so you can still walk while the cart swims.
Also works if you pull the cart while swimming, but that takes stamina...

[Long Dead Fingers]

If you are building paths, holding down the shift key while using the hoe will get smoother results. Just thought I'd mention it because although I've been playing a while, I only figured this out a few days ago. It can be a bit of a chore but building paths that are smooth (and not too steep) has made a big difference in how well my carts hold up, as well as how much they can haul.

Originally posted by Draconis:

As it is right now, you can't pull a cart up a normal slope (26° stairs) as soon as it weighs more than 2000.

That is annoying, but still better than carring everything in roughly 225 weight unit steps.

I knew I was creeping toward the point of diminishing returns but wasn't sure about the numbers. Thanks for posting that.

[knighttemplar1960]

Carts aren't designed for long distance travel especially solo when you have to stop and break rocks or chop trees if you haven't all ready cleared a path. They are meant to be used for shorter distances (like going from your boat dock to base and back) that you travel frequently. The boats are designed for long distance travel.

[FishLove]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Carts aren't designed for long distance travel especially solo when you have to stop and break rocks or chop trees if you haven't all ready cleared a path. They are meant to be used for shorter distances (like going from your boat dock to base and back) that you travel frequently. The boats are designed for long distance travel.

I only use them to get from my meadows location to swamp for iron (although I will admit I was pretty far from my base when I wrote this and was losing my ♥♥♥♥ fighting dwarves trying to pick up 1000kg of stuff). I used Valheim + to remove damage to carts and my blood pressure has stabilised.

[Zombits]

1000 is usually around the weight you can't climb some of the slopes.

I throw my cart from top of mountains full of silver , it didn't break 9 times out of 10.

repair it though, not much hp left

[vandalism]

Valheim: it's not hard it's just frustrating. That's what the game description should be lol.

[hallaloth]

The stupidity of carts was the reason I turned to modding. I do not enjoy the tedium of hauling wood 100 yards from home 10 times before I can build anything

[Damnion]

I love carts their great!! As a temporary extra large storage device. Not for actually moving anything. :-p I keep one around base for when I'm moving metal and coal to and from the smelters. I also like to use one out in the field to gather everything up before overburdening myself and limping through a portal to drop it off at home.

[N0oBaSiC]

didn't ever use carts xd

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by N0oBaSiC:

didn't ever use carts xd

I use carts for mobile storage inside my base. If I want to raise earth at the perimeter I'll fill a cart with rocks and move it to where I'm building.