Tıps on swamp. How to slay a Abomination?

[A-Z]

Thank you guys so much for your previous tips on sailing! Now I am comfortable with it.
Now please tell me how to deal with abomination. I am fine with running away from it, but it seeks out and destroys my boats, portals, and workbenches. Now I build my portals in biomes neighboring swamps, but that prevents me from deep expeditions.
Now I want to be able to slay abomination. It doesn't seem to have particular weaknesses to anything, I don't understand its hitbox and it kills me in 3 hits. And can barely chip it's healthpool. SO what do I do?

[electricdawn]

You don't even have to do it on top of a crypt. Usually, if I don't fight in that area, my portals and workbench have never been damaged.

[w.f.schepel]

Originally posted by Zombits:

They all suggest an axe , which is the slowest and worst weapon in general.

Make a bronze or iron sword instead. Fire arrows are also an option for abobinations.

Build everything on top of crypts, you just need a portal, workbench, box ,etc. Not a house

Have you even tried using one on the blob between the legs? The abomination is weak vs. axes and you kill one a LOT faster that way.

[HyperLightDrifter]

Never had any problems using an axe. If you want to grind more bronze for a sword, be my guest.
Fire arrows will take forever since the A-bomb puts itself out using swamp water every time after catching fire and it's resistant to pierce.
Edit: It's also resistant to blunt to a lesser degree as well so don't use a mace either.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by w.f.schepel:

The abomination is weak vs. axes

Proof?

An axe does slash (same as sword) and chop damage. AFIK, no mobs take chop damage, and the wiki certainly doesn't indicate that it's weak to chop damage, so how is is weak vs. axes?

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by HyperLightDrifter:

Never had any problems using an axe. If you want to grind more bronze for a sword, be my guest.
Fire arrows will take forever since the A-bomb puts itself out using swamp water every time after catching fire and it's resistant to pierce.
Edit: It's also resistant to blunt to a lesser degree as well so don't use a mace either.

Every time the subject comes up about why club is meta in this game, the reasons always seem to point to swamp, even though the only mobs in swamp that are weak to blunt are skeletons, blobs/oozers, and bonemass.

Skeletons should be a non-issue in swamp, so should blobs and oozers if you're using poison resist mead, or if you have the root helmet, which you get from the abomination, which, of course, is resistant to blunt!

If you want to grind iron for a mace to kill bonemass, then be my guest. Never had a problem using a sword. :-)

[Quintium]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by w.f.schepel:

The abomination is weak vs. axes

Proof?

An axe does slash (same as sword) and chop damage. AFIK, no mobs take chop damage, and the wiki certainly doesn't indicate that it's weak to chop damage, so how is is weak vs. axes?

You are correct, it is not.
Axe, sword, and knife standard attack are the same against creatures. But there is a good chance that your axe skill is higher than your sword skill. Which is why it can be somewhat more effective on damage.
As someone already said, parry (a level 3 bronze buckler is enough) and wack it with the axe afterwards takes it down quickly. I don't even bother with the legs. Stand underneath it and parry its stump attack.
But of course, shouldn't stop you from using swords or knives if that you want to use those instead.
Abomination really isn't that scary.

[HyperLightDrifter]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by HyperLightDrifter:

Never had any problems using an axe. If you want to grind more bronze for a sword, be my guest.
Fire arrows will take forever since the A-bomb puts itself out using swamp water every time after catching fire and it's resistant to pierce.
Edit: It's also resistant to blunt to a lesser degree as well so don't use a mace either.

Every time the subject comes up about why club is meta in this game, the reasons always seem to point to swamp, even though the only mobs in swamp that are weak to blunt are skeletons, blobs/oozers, and bonemass.

Skeletons should be a non-issue in swamp, so should blobs and oozers if you're using poison resist mead, or if you have the root helmet, which you get from the abomination, which, of course, is resistant to blunt!

If you want to grind iron for a mace to kill bonemass, then be my guest. Never had a problem using a sword. :-)

It sounds like this is one of those instances where everyone else in the world that is saying the same thing is correct and the mace is considered meta for a reason since Bonemass is weak against blunt and you are going to need an iron mace for stone golems come the mountains as well with the iron sword having very limited utility there.

Edit: A level 3 bronze buckler is not enough for the A-bomb, that will get most players killed without a lot of skill points in block Also standing underneath it when an iron buckler could not parry the middle attack on most block defense skill ratings is just silly. Seriously guys, it's like you two don't even play this game and just comment on it. I do not understand the constant complete wrong advice I see in this forum daily. No other game has this problem.

[Soma]

Originally posted by Quintium:

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Proof?

An axe does slash (same as sword) and chop damage. AFIK, no mobs take chop damage, and the wiki certainly doesn't indicate that it's weak to chop damage, so how is is weak vs. axes?

You are correct, it is not.
Axe, sword, and knife standard attack are the same against creatures. But there is a good chance that your axe skill is higher than your sword skill. Which is why it can be somewhat more effective on damage.
As someone already said, parry (a level 3 bronze buckler is enough) and wack it with the axe afterwards takes it down quickly. I don't even bother with the legs. Stand underneath it and parry its stump attack.
But of course, shouldn't stop you from using swords or knives if that you want to use those instead.
Abomination really isn't that scary.

My axe skill never passes 10. The change that made cutting down trees and attacking monsters a seperate skill took axe off my radar for a main or even secondary weapon. BUT..... the duel weilding axes introduced in Ashlands does make me want to give it a try on a future playthrough.

[Soma]

Originally posted by HyperLightDrifter:

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Every time the subject comes up about why club is meta in this game, the reasons always seem to point to swamp, even though the only mobs in swamp that are weak to blunt are skeletons, blobs/oozers, and bonemass.

Skeletons should be a non-issue in swamp, so should blobs and oozers if you're using poison resist mead, or if you have the root helmet, which you get from the abomination, which, of course, is resistant to blunt!

If you want to grind iron for a mace to kill bonemass, then be my guest. Never had a problem using a sword. :-)

It sounds like this is one of those instances where everyone else in the world that is saying the same thing is correct and the mace is considered meta for a reason since Bonemass is weak against blunt and you are going to need an iron mace for stone golems come the mountains as well with the iron sword having very limited utility there.

Edit: A level 3 bronze buckler is not enough for the A-bomb, that will get most players killed without a lot of skill points in block Also standing underneath it when an iron buckler could not parry the middle attack on most block defense skill ratings is just silly. Seriously guys, it's like you two don't even play this game and just comment on it. I do not understand the constant complete wrong advice I see in this forum daily. No other game has this problem.

In my experience wolves are the main threat in mountains and sword/knife are amazing against a wolf. Since golem i think is the only mob in the game that does not have a single necessary drop, I just dig a hole and ignore them. UNless you want to have a complete trophy room there is no need to ever kill a golem

I like to decide early what will be main and secondary the whole playthrough. Most often blunt main for tombs early game up til bonemass and then frostner all the way up to Ashlands.

If I decide knife main from the beginning the game becomes too easy. A knife skill of 50 plus in mountains and plains is enough for me. I killed Yagluth with a silver knife face tanking with the proper potions.

My secondary is usually polearm because of its aoe and the mistlands one is so OP I would not be upset if it got a nerf.

[Bruudwin]

you could also treehouse it up in the swamps with the indestructable tall trees and shoot down on all the enemies.

[Draconis]

Haven't read all the replys, so sorry in advance if I repeat something that was already said....

There are several strategies that work quite good, depending an equiment and situation. I assume the phase of a playthrough where you start with the swamp and come more or less freshly out of the black forest.

1) Fire and patience. Although there is always rain in the swamp, you can still use fire arrows on the abominations. It will take some time. If you want to benefit a bit more from the fire damage, you can lure them out of the swamp and into a black forest or meadows, if you are near the border. Prefer the black forest, as greydwarf brutes make a good distraction for the abomination.
1b) Also fire.... you can lure the abomination over a nearby surtling spawner (best case: One that you already flooded by lowering ground so the surtlings die immediately) and let it burn in the geysir's flame.

2) Parry and counter. Two of the attacks (the strike from the left and the body slam) have quite good to see timewindows for a parry. The downward strike is a bit harder to guess, it takes a bit more practice and requires better equipment, so you'll want to dodge this or just walk araound the abomination as soon as it raises the thick arm/root/branch.
For more safety on this approach, you can craft a banded shield as soon as you find enough iron.

3) Don't stay in place in case of reinforcements. If draugrs or skeletons arrive, move on. If possible move a way where the abomination has to turn before it can follow you. It turns quite slowly. That is your chance.
It might even work to walk around it and use It's slow turn to create you own chance for an attack, but I haven't actually done that often.

[Draconis]

Originally posted by Soma:

My axe skill never passes 10. The change that made cutting down trees and attacking monsters a seperate skill took axe off my radar for a main or even secondary weapon. BUT..... the duel weilding axes introduced in Ashlands does make me want to give it a try on a future playthrough.

Just a warning in advance:
The axe has one major problem in the mountains. If you block a wolf, you don't have enough time to attack before the wolf attacks again. So without knowing the parry timing for wolves by heart you might want to switch to sword or mace in the mountains. If you're routined in parrying wolves it might be viable. Also, the axe has one of the few attacks that can actually deal damage vertically.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by HyperLightDrifter:

It sounds like this is one of those instances where everyone else in the world that is saying the same thing is correct and the mace is considered meta for a reason since Bonemass is weak against blunt and you are going to need an iron mace for stone golems come the mountains as well with the iron sword having very limited utility there.

Did you know that you can kill bonemass and stone golems with just a knife? Have you tried with any other weapons?

Originally posted by HyperLightDrifter:

Edit: A level 3 bronze buckler is not enough for the A-bomb, that will get most players killed without a lot of skill points in block Also standing underneath it when an iron buckler could not parry the middle attack on most block defense skill ratings is just silly. Seriously guys, it's like you two don't even play this game and just comment on it. I do not understand the constant complete wrong advice I see in this forum daily. No other game has this problem.

Do you know how blocking and parying work? It depends on many more factors than what your blocking and parying with and your skill level. You most certainly can parry an abomination with a bronze buckler.

[w.f.schepel]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by w.f.schepel:

The abomination is weak vs. axes

Proof?

An axe does slash (same as sword) and chop damage. AFIK, no mobs take chop damage, and the wiki certainly doesn't indicate that it's weak to chop damage, so how is is weak vs. axes?

You can test it quite easily. You will see your crosshairs turn yellow and yellow damage numbers will show up when you hit.

[Zombits]

Originally posted by w.f.schepel:

Originally posted by Zombits:

They all suggest an axe , which is the slowest and worst weapon in general.

Make a bronze or iron sword instead. Fire arrows are also an option for abobinations.

Build everything on top of crypts, you just need a portal, workbench, box ,etc. Not a house

Have you even tried using one on the blob between the legs? The abomination is weak vs. axes and you kill one a LOT faster that way.

wrong, it's weak to slash, doesn't have to be an axe. sword is much faster and useful to fight . Dual axes much later are great.

new players mistakes...