Do you all mine like this?

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

I am so glad that my trick worked :D, while I farmed stones for later use, I got all silver ores in 1 break hit. Used my antler and bronze pickaxe to clear the vein and then kaboom. Pretty time saving and useful, advised for players who are yet to reach mountain biom.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266283617

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by bbyhighness:

Yes for silver. No for copper. With copper, I just use trolls to smash the surface layers and don't bother with what's underneath, unless I'm really desperate.

I have done the same 2 times :D, we also get woods for free xD

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

True. You can find silver with the stag breaker and occasionally a vein will just be protruding from the peak.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2931149861

Just today a while ago I found two such silver veins, but totally coincidental and risky as hell to roam around in Mountains like that, having Wishing Bone is far far better choice it seems.

[Nerevar]

i did until i got the siege ram and the meteor troll. now i dont anymore. but i also dont mine silver anymore as silver is just useless lategame since it aint used in building unlike copper.

the ram is great for breaking the mistlands armors and swords. the troll meteor has trouble hitting it all. for copper veins the meteor just wins.

swamp iron is still the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as always.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Not sure how useful the metrics will be especially compared to you since I am disabled from a stroke and have poor motor control in my right hand which makes things take longer for me than for most people but.....

Antler pick, hoe, deer meat, boar meat, and honey as foods, carry weight max 300. I used my honey as my timer. Started out in a rain storm at the 14 minute mark (so my stamina regen for that time was -15% from the wet debuff):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266806875
about 30 seconds later
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266806371
Node unearthed after a total of 8 minutes including 8 graydwarf kills and and 3 portal runs for repairs (plus rock tossing at home base).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266808448
Went back to base and slept. Renewed food and broke all the copper nodes in 6 minutes, 2 repair portals, and killed 6 more gray dwarves. (No wet debuff this day)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266806245
spent 9 minutes picking up ore and rocks including pitching surplus rock out
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266805922
Total ore and rocks that I kept (does not include the rocks that went back and got dumped each repair run)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3266806300
So 136 copper ore in less than 14 minutes actually spent picking and hoeing. With a starting pick skill of 21 and zero deaths.

I spent less time mining than I spent transporting the ore and rocks. I portaled the rocks back. Slept, renewed food, portaled back and loaded the Karve. Sailing back home took 16 minutes.

Edit - double posted the total screen. Replaced the 2nd total screen with the map screen showing deposit and base locations.

Looks like too much headache for copper which is abundant itself and isn't required that much unlike Iron and Silver as far I have seen.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

True. You can find silver with the stag breaker and occasionally a vein will just be protruding from the peak.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2931149861

Just today a while ago I found two such silver veins, but totally coincidental and risky as hell to roam around in Mountains like that, having Wishing Bone is far far better choice it seems.

On the peak the golems that tend to spawn around silver deposits can't climb up to reach you and you can see wolves and drakes coming. Enough time to get a shot off with your bow.

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Looks like too much headache for copper which is abundant itself and isn't required that much unlike Iron and Silver as far I have seen.

You use quite a bit more copper than you might suspect. You need it to make the forge, bronze, the forge cooler, the obliterator, pots and pans upgrade for the cauldron, and several items from the Mistlands. You need bronze for the fermenter, the adze, anvils, Dverger lanterns, sconces, the cultivator, both braizers, nails to make the karve, the cart, shutters, and item stands. You'll also need it to make an axe and any weapons you want plus armor if you aren't going to use the troll set. The only thing you'll use more of is iron.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Just today a while ago I found two such silver veins, but totally coincidental and risky as hell to roam around in Mountains like that, having Wishing Bone is far far better choice it seems.

On the peak the golems that tend to spawn around silver deposits can't climb up to reach you and you can see wolves and drakes coming. Enough time to get a shot off with your bow.

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Looks like too much headache for copper which is abundant itself and isn't required that much unlike Iron and Silver as far I have seen.

You use quite a bit more copper than you might suspect. You need it to make the forge, bronze, the forge cooler, the obliterator, pots and pans upgrade for the cauldron, and several items from the Mistlands. You need bronze for the fermenter, the adze, anvils, Dverger lanterns, sconces, the cultivator, both braizers, nails to make the karve, the cart, shutters, and item stands. You'll also need it to make an axe and any weapons you want plus armor if you aren't going to use the troll set. The only thing you'll use more of is iron.

I haven't find any problem with copper as well as bronze, about to kill 4th boss, 4-5 days later in game time, bronze armor is useless tbh, the protection it gives and the movement speed minus it affects, didn't even care to make, troll armor is far far better for my playstyle. Currently Wolf hide armors with only fenris hood, all lvl 3. Most of the things you have mentioned, I have made those already (obviously which are unlocked as per my progression in game). I get around 60-70 coppers per copper mine which is more than enough for me, there are 33 bronze in my stock with same amount of copper and tin, ores are more than 100+/-. Yes, iron is a headache for real, I am using the ore thorough portal modifier only and rest are on default normal as I found it nonsense to restrict ore transfer via portal. Though I have transported quite a lot of silver and other ores via Cart and Boats. Iron is always by portal, I hate Swamp LOL.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Just today a while ago I found two such silver veins, but totally coincidental and risky as hell to roam around in Mountains like that, having Wishing Bone is far far better choice it seems.

On the peak the golems that tend to spawn around silver deposits can't climb up to reach you and you can see wolves and drakes coming. Enough time to get a shot off with your bow.

Not being able to aim up and down while using melee is big enough headache for me to do such not at all needed risky things, not to forget the stamina thingy while you slide down the mountain slopes. I will not do it even when I have 500 hrs in the game if I go that far into it.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

On the peak the golems that tend to spawn around silver deposits can't climb up to reach you and you can see wolves and drakes coming. Enough time to get a shot off with your bow.

Not being able to aim up and down while using melee is big enough headache for me to do such not at all needed risky things, not to forget the stamina thingy while you slide down the mountain slopes. I will not do it even when I have 500 hrs in the game if I go that far into it.

On the peak I use the pick to make a flat spot to stand on. One swing is enough. Golems can't reach me, I can take out wolves and drakes with bow only. If i get into trouble I still have my Bonemass power. Not trying to tell you how to play just how I play. Being disabled I've had to make adjustments that other players don't.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Thank you! That's impressive, and now I understand how you're mining it. My impression was that you were mining all the way underneath, but, at least for copper, you're just lowering the terrain to get more copper?

You did say that it works better for copper than silver, and I think that my method would likely be faster for silver, but I'll have to try that for copper and see what I come up with.

In any case, that's enough copper for most of what you need in bronze, even if you make bronze armor, so where's that copper grind. :-)

SIlver runs are complete.

Iron pick, pick skill 51, wolf skewer, wolf jerky, onion soup.

Pick and hoe

8 minutes. No attacks, no repair runs, 87 ore. Didn't accidentally strike the deposit because of using the hoe. The entire deposit popped after 3 pick swings in the center.

Pick only

11 minutes, 2 wolves, 1 drake, 1 repair run, 90 ore. Accidentally struck the deposit a couple times so 3 picks swings knocked the center of the deposit out and had to pop each arm separately.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Thank you! That's impressive, and now I understand how you're mining it. My impression was that you were mining all the way underneath, but, at least for copper, you're just lowering the terrain to get more copper?

You did say that it works better for copper than silver, and I think that my method would likely be faster for silver, but I'll have to try that for copper and see what I come up with.

In any case, that's enough copper for most of what you need in bronze, even if you make bronze armor, so where's that copper grind. :-)

SIlver runs are complete.

Iron pick, pick skill 51, wolf skewer, wolf jerky, onion soup.

Pick and hoe

8 minutes. No attacks, no repair runs, 87 ore. Didn't accidentally strike the deposit because of using the hoe. The entire deposit popped after 3 pick swings in the center.

Pick only

11 minutes, 2 wolves, 1 drake, 1 repair run, 90 ore. Accidentally struck the deposit a couple times so 3 picks swings knocked the center of the deposit out and had to pop each arm separately.

I have to contradict your 'accidentally hitting silver vein with iron pickaxe' thingy, because I used iron pickaxe several times when clearing the relatively harder rock clusters, and I hit my last silver vein couple of times (no breakage of silver vein) and when I hit centre after clearing surroundings, it was 3 hit and break and whole thing popped. Also for my 1st silver vein, I popped only a single arm (as it got separated and the idea came to my mind) I have pickaxed other part beforehand, it was also 3hit break and whole single arm popped. So, there is no problem if you hit the silver vein or break it partially. The pop will happen irrespective of that.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Not being able to aim up and down while using melee is big enough headache for me to do such not at all needed risky things, not to forget the stamina thingy while you slide down the mountain slopes. I will not do it even when I have 500 hrs in the game if I go that far into it.

On the peak I use the pick to make a flat spot to stand on. One swing is enough. Golems can't reach me, I can take out wolves and drakes with bow only. If i get into trouble I still have my Bonemass power. Not trying to tell you how to play just how I play. Being disabled I've had to make adjustments that other players don't.

I know, I am also telling how I like to play and how I am doing on my end, not passing any judgement on anyone's playstyle. You're much more experienced in this game than me. :)

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

SIlver runs are complete.

Iron pick, pick skill 51, wolf skewer, wolf jerky, onion soup.

Pick and hoe

8 minutes. No attacks, no repair runs, 87 ore. Didn't accidentally strike the deposit because of using the hoe. The entire deposit popped after 3 pick swings in the center.

Pick only

11 minutes, 2 wolves, 1 drake, 1 repair run, 90 ore. Accidentally struck the deposit a couple times so 3 picks swings knocked the center of the deposit out and had to pop each arm separately.

I have to contradict your 'accidentally hitting silver vein with iron pickaxe' thingy, because I used iron pickaxe several times when clearing the relatively harder rock clusters, and I hit my last silver vein couple of times (no breakage of silver vein) and when I hit centre after clearing surroundings, it was 3 hit and break and whole thing popped. Also for my 1st silver vein, I popped only a single arm (as it got separated and the idea came to my mind) I have pickaxed other part beforehand, it was also 3hit break and whole single arm popped. So, there is no problem if you hit the silver vein or break it partially. The pop will happen irrespective of that.

Not always. You can ruin a pop by accidentally striking the deposit while mining, especially if you get a bit of silver ore when that happens. The entire silver deposit is actually made up of several linked nodes (just like the copper deposits). Messing up one of the nodes can ruin the pop. My 3 usual teammates and I have messed up our silver pops on more than one occasion (especially before we knew we could do that). My test run here for pick only was one of those times. If you watch Faceplant8's video you can see that he didn't get a full pop on that mining run.

[BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

I have to contradict your 'accidentally hitting silver vein with iron pickaxe' thingy, because I used iron pickaxe several times when clearing the relatively harder rock clusters, and I hit my last silver vein couple of times (no breakage of silver vein) and when I hit centre after clearing surroundings, it was 3 hit and break and whole thing popped. Also for my 1st silver vein, I popped only a single arm (as it got separated and the idea came to my mind) I have pickaxed other part beforehand, it was also 3hit break and whole single arm popped. So, there is no problem if you hit the silver vein or break it partially. The pop will happen irrespective of that.

Not always. You can ruin a pop by accidentally striking the deposit while mining, especially if you get a bit of silver ore when that happens. The entire silver deposit is actually made up of several linked nodes (just like the copper deposits). Messing up one of the nodes can ruin the pop. My 3 usual teammates and I have messed up our silver pops on more than one occasion (especially before we knew we could do that). My test run here for pick only was one of those times.

As long as the silver vein or its part that you are trying to pop is floating, it's all good. You guys were playing online so that must have been server/server lag issue. I just checked and cleared all the doubts with my 5th vein.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by YADAV HU - MULLO KA TATTA HU:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

Not always. You can ruin a pop by accidentally striking the deposit while mining, especially if you get a bit of silver ore when that happens. The entire silver deposit is actually made up of several linked nodes (just like the copper deposits). Messing up one of the nodes can ruin the pop. My 3 usual teammates and I have messed up our silver pops on more than one occasion (especially before we knew we could do that). My test run here for pick only was one of those times.

As long as the silver vein or its part that you are trying to pop is floating, it's all good. You guys were playing online so that must have been server/server lag issue. I just checked and cleared all the doubts with my 5th vein.

Again not always. I play solo sometimes, teamed on LAN as host with just my wife sometimes, and occasionally with a couple folks that live in another country both on a dedicated server and online with me as host.

I've had it happen occasionally in all of the circumstances. Play a thousand+ hours. You'll accumulate a failed pop or two.