Knives nerfed?

[Spark Bibo]

I took a break from the game for a few months. Have returned to find killing trolls by sneaking up and stabbing the ♥♥♥♥ out them no longer works. It was never a one-hit, but the combos used to stun for a second and that brief time game knife-wielders an opening to stabby stabby.

It doesn’t seem to stun the same way giving the troll time to smashy smashy.

[Sinclair]

Stun depends on the damage dealt. You might need to use a bigger knife.

[JP_Russell]

It still works. It's very effective with an abyssal razor and even works fine with a copper knife. I wouldn't try it with a flint knife, though, and in general I don't try any melee strategy against trolls unless I have at least a T3 bronze shield so I can comfortably parry their attacks if I screw up.

[Zombits]

abyssal knife is rly not that good. I thought iron or better

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Spark Bibo:

I took a break from the game for a few months. Have returned to find killing trolls by sneaking up and stabbing the ♥♥♥♥ out them no longer works. It was never a one-hit, but the combos used to stun for a second and that brief time game knife-wielders an opening to stabby stabby.

It doesn’t seem to stun the same way giving the troll time to smashy smashy.

Nothing has changed in these regards over the last few months.

Originally posted by Zombits:

abyssal knife is rly not that good. I thought iron or better

There isnt an "iron" knife.

Flint knife
Copper knife
Abyssal Razor
Silver knife
Blackmetal knife
Skoll and Hati

That's the damage and stagger values in progressive order.

Skoll and Hati additionally are dual wielded (so some think mistakenly that they're fist weapons) but they're actually classified as knives in terms of skill use. Of note, flesh rippers are not classified as knife but as fist weapons skill use wise respectively.

[Forcedge]

this is off topic, but silver knife absolutely melts the swamp and ice caves

[Thaecrasis]

Abyssal knife alternate attack from backstab does INSANE damage - can easily kill trolls in one hit with it when your Knives skill level is decently high

[Zombits]

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by Spark Bibo:

I took a break from the game for a few months. Have returned to find killing trolls by sneaking up and stabbing the ♥♥♥♥ out them no longer works. It was never a one-hit, but the combos used to stun for a second and that brief time game knife-wielders an opening to stabby stabby.

It doesn’t seem to stun the same way giving the troll time to smashy smashy.

Nothing has changed in these regards over the last few months.

Originally posted by Zombits:

abyssal knife is rly not that good. I thought iron or better

There isnt an "iron" knife.

Flint knife
Copper knife
Abyssal Razor
Silver knife
Blackmetal knife
Skoll and Hati

That's the damage and stagger values in progressive order.

Skoll and Hati additionally are dual wielded (so some think mistakenly that they're fist weapons) but they're actually classified as knives in terms of skill use. Of note, flesh rippers are not classified as knife but as fist weapons skill use wise respectively.

Thank you for precision , it's the sort of weapon that has its utility , no speed penalty and very fun to use, especially for past biomes you became too strong for , that's how i see it

A lot of time in swamps and especially plains you fight multiple foes at same time . i found weapons liek frostner very usefull. depending on difficulty settings

[glass zebra]

The altfire from knives does quite a lot of damage and is often enough to stagger enemies, which makes it a rather safe opener from a few meters away - except for Seekers of course, because they are bugged and can hit you even though you just staggered them from damage.

[bacon]

knives are one of the best weapon classes. knife is the only weapon class currently represented in every biome, if you count abyssal razor as being swamp/iron level. and you have the option of using blackmetal knife and shield, or the new dual wield knife, depending on your preference. great time to be a knife main. with that said, i wouldnt be surprised if that is one weapon type skipped in ashlands. we've seen no teasers so far.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by bacon:

knives are one of the best weapon classes. knife is the only weapon class currently represented in every biome, if you count abyssal razor as being swamp/iron level. and you have the option of using blackmetal knife and shield, or the new dual wield knife, depending on your preference. great time to be a knife main. with that said, i wouldnt be surprised if that is one weapon type skipped in ashlands. we've seen no teasers so far.

If there isnt, there is a possibility of the enchanting system compensating/supplementing but we'll have to see.

[bacon]

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by bacon:

knives are one of the best weapon classes. knife is the only weapon class currently represented in every biome, if you count abyssal razor as being swamp/iron level. and you have the option of using blackmetal knife and shield, or the new dual wield knife, depending on your preference. great time to be a knife main. with that said, i wouldnt be surprised if that is one weapon type skipped in ashlands. we've seen no teasers so far.

If there isnt, there is a possibility of the enchanting system compensating/supplementing but we'll have to see.

enchanting will work only on flametal weapons. so, you wont be able to go back and buff plains or mistlands gear.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by bacon:

Originally posted by retsam1:

If there isnt, there is a possibility of the enchanting system compensating/supplementing but we'll have to see.

enchanting will work only on flametal weapons. so, you wont be able to go back and buff plains or mistlands gear.

Thanks. I'd not caught that.