Does mining under the copper vein still work?

[Sgt Squirt]

To destroy and collect all the copper because ive mined as deep as i can go with a bronze pickaxe and cant go any deeper?

[Gladi8er65]

In un-modded game, player can only dig down 8 meters maximum, starting at a point of untouched ground.

Does not matter what type of pick you use, they ALL will stop you at 8m depth.

[Ringo]

depends on where the copper vein is. if you get one without much terrain underneath you need to mine the bottom layer of copper and the rest will pop.
Not really sure about picking out copper veins that have a lot of terrain underneath but im sure someone else has some tips for that.

[knighttemplar1960]

Fun trick that will save you time. Build a work bench and cover it enough to repair your antler pick. Use the pick to dig down 2 meters then use the hoe to flatten terrain. Much faster than digging all of the ground with the pick and it produces fewer rocks. Once the terrain around the node is flat pick down 2 meters and flatten with the hoe again.

The hoe trick also works in the mountains with silver deposits.

[NZ.Zero]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

use the hoe

nice trick that

OP.. yeah the 'dig under then pop the whole thing in one go' stlll works, I was doing it with silver a couple of days ago and copper a week or two ago. It might take a couple of hits but yeah, more or less one hit for the lot and it all comes down like rain.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by Tuxedo:

And sorry ... i forgot to mention i mined three Copper veins in total so far
with this method, by using 2x Materials multiplier with the world modifiers.

Since you seem to be emphasizing efficacy, would you (or anyone) be able to share how much you mine with that method and how long it takes? From my controlled tests, this method was far less efficient than what can easily be achieved just mining the tops of the rocks.

It certainly is more efficient for silver, where you can easily mine a vein in a day, and don't have the option of just mining the top, but, at least for me, it took several game days to mine a rock using this method.

[Darren Daulton]

If you can get under it .. and clear any invisible oversized connects to earth , then yes, it'll pop.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by Tuxedo:

And sorry ... i forgot to mention i mined three Copper veins in total so far
with this method, by using 2x Materials multiplier with the world modifiers.

Since you seem to be emphasizing efficacy, would you (or anyone) be able to share how much you mine with that method and how long it takes? From my controlled tests, this method was far less efficient than what can easily be achieved just mining the tops of the rocks.

It certainly is more efficient for silver, where you can easily mine a vein in a day, and don't have the option of just mining the top, but, at least for me, it took several game days to mine a rock using this method.

It would be very hard to compare since the antler pick is much slower than an iron pick and copper nodes can vary in size while silver deposits are all the same size.

Edit- I went looking for some numbers. Silver ore averages 83.3 ore per deposit. Copper ore is often buried below the maximum floor so the amount of a node that can be mined was calculated at 90% and yields 117 copper ore on average.

[Zombits]

Not worth it, because of density of copper deposits , and being lowest grade metal. you dont save time on copper

It works better for silver

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

It would be very hard to compare since the antler pick is much slower than an iron pick and copper nodes can vary in size while silver deposits are all the same size.

Edit- I went looking for some numbers. Silver ore averages 83.3 ore per deposit. Copper ore is often buried below the maximum floor so the amount of a node that can be mined was calculated at 90% and yields 117 copper ore on average.

I'm not looking for a comparison between copper and silver mining. I'm stating that this method is much more efficient for silver than digging it out from above ground. I don't think anyone is disputing that.

What I'm asking is for comparisons between the efficiency of mining an entire coper node and of just mining the top. How much or to you get in both cases, and how long does it take.

FWIW, I mine both copper and silver with a bronze pick (at least after I have mined enough to make a bronze pick). I can almost always dig out an entire silver node with a level-2 bronze pick, and I have the iron pick to finish the job. That means I don't have to repair anything on the mountain if I don't want to. It also means that it's a no-brainer to make a level-2 bronze pick when I start mining in black forest, which makes that job go much faster.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

It would be very hard to compare since the antler pick is much slower than an iron pick and copper nodes can vary in size while silver deposits are all the same size.

Edit- I went looking for some numbers. Silver ore averages 83.3 ore per deposit. Copper ore is often buried below the maximum floor so the amount of a node that can be mined was calculated at 90% and yields 117 copper ore on average.

I'm not looking for a comparison between copper and silver mining. I'm stating that this method is much more efficient for silver than digging it out from above ground. I don't think anyone is disputing that.

What I'm asking is for comparisons between the efficiency of mining an entire coper node and of just mining the top. How much or to you get in both cases, and how long does it take.

FWIW, I mine both copper and silver with a bronze pick (at least after I have mined enough to make a bronze pick). I can almost always dig out an entire silver node with a level-2 bronze pick, and I have the iron pick to finish the job. That means I don't have to repair anything on the mountain if I don't want to. It also means that it's a no-brainer to make a level-2 bronze pick when I start mining in black forest, which makes that job go much faster.

The copper nodes are much larger and touch the ground about 10% of the time so they can't be shattered in those cases. Both type deposits produce ore at a rate 1 in 3. 90% of a copper node averages 117 ore. 100% of a silver node averages 83.3 ore. Silver is going to be faster if you use the same type pick on both deposits just based on node sizes but you are going to get less silver ore in that amount of time.

Digging around a copper node will take longer because its larger but earth has the same health in the black forest as it does in the mountains. Plus your stamina pool will be larger in the mountains than it was in the black forest because you'll have better food.

Your perception will always be that mining copper takes longer plus you have to mine more copper (plus tin) than silver just due to what you have to build with each metal.

Not sure if that answers your question.