Massive stuttering

[Ketonasarus]

Hi all. Been playing quite a while, only recently entered into mistlands. I have noticed that there's quite a bit of stuttering in this area, but I do have stuttering overall, just more than normal in mistlands.

Here's my specs:
Core i5 6600k @ 4.2
16GB DDR4-3000
EVGA GTX 1080 Ti
Western Digital NVMe SSD


The game is running with no mods.
I have selected all the lowest quality options to rule out that as an issue.
I'm using a 144hz monitor, the game runs pinned at 144fps all the time except for when in heavy mist.

I have done a number of things already to try and reduce/eliminate the stutter with zero success, some of these things are:
- changed nvidia control panel options:
- selected prefer maximum performance
- enabled ultra low latency mode
- selected fast vertical sync
- entered windowed exclusive mode in launcher options
- added to the boot.config file:
gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
- downloaded Throttlestop to lock CPU speed to 4.2GHz


Hopefully others have had this issue and have found a way to fix it.

Thanks in advanced.

[Darren Daulton]

10 y/o processor and GPU.

Is the RAM OC? is anything OC?

Return everything to defaults.

Remove any and all OC.

Completely remove all mods/ third party software. (like throttlestop)

make backups.

Completely delete game. Reinstall game.

Set everything as low as it will go except draw distance.

let me know how it goes.

[Ketonasarus]

Originally posted by Darren Daulton:

10 y/o processor and GPU.

Is the RAM OC? is anything OC?

Return everything to defaults.

Remove any and all OC.

Completely remove all mods/ third party software. (like throttlestop)

make backups.

Completely delete game. Reinstall game.

Set everything as low as it will go except draw distance.

let me know how it goes.

I don't have any issues with any other games, the OC is stable via prime95, extensively tested prior to using it on a daily basis, not to mention that's just a mild OC with not even so much as a boost in the core voltage required - can't see how that's even remotely related.

I don't have stuttering issues with any other games, most recent example is FFXIV.

All settings are already as low as possible except draw distance.

[Darren Daulton]

So many nooks and crannies, nearly impossible to diagnose via forum exchange without any kind of baseline.

To be fair I have been experiencing some serious stuttering even in a (fairly large) meadows estate. But I've attributed that to a friend spawning in indestructible chest (stone) by a large built.

Again , eliminate variables. Except I can't because the chest will not go away. But you can :

Return everything to defaults.

Restart.

Remove any and all OC.

Restart.

Completely remove all mods/ third party software. (like throttlestop)

Restart.

make backups.

Completely delete game.

Restart.

Reinstall game.

Set everything as low as it will go except draw distance.

restart.

And let me know how it goes.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Ketonasarus:

Depends on what kind of stuttering it is. Check this reddit comment I made about different types of stutters. Rather than using Throttlestop, I would recommend disabling C-states in BIOS.

[Ketonasarus]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Ketonasarus:

Depends on what kind of stuttering it is. Check this reddit comment I made about different types of stutters. Rather than using Throttlestop, I would recommend disabling C-states in BIOS.

- It is not temperature related, I'm monitoring temps constantly.
- It's not power throttling, GPU clocks and CPU clocks are consistent.
- I understand save stuttering, I've experienced it, this is not that.
- Zone border stuttering happens but this is also not that, this is a consistent stuttering.
- I highly doubt it's audio stuttering, since I've noticed when the source cap is hit and that only really happens at my main base when doing too many things at once, this is not that.
- No mods are installed, so it is not related to that.
- All of the other possible sources listed in that link would affect all games, not just valhiem.


As I have said earlier, stuttering is only an issue with this game, which is why I'm posting here to see if someone has found a game-related problem and fix for it.

I'm using throttlestop to simply set SpeedShift to 1 (out of 255), which causes even low loads to pin the frequency. It is not the source of the issues, since I use it with every other game and it does not cause issues. It's easier than going into the BIOS every time to change C-state settings, when I decide not to game, so that my frequency isn't constantly pinned high. I'm not using throttlestop for TDP, voltage or current modification.

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Ketonasarus:

Can you record your stuttering while having F2 window opened? I have a 1070 card and have no stutters related to Mist alone. How high is your TDP on your 1080ti when Mist is getting rendered? I tend to get a lot of crash reports from 1080ti users in Valheim, due to PSU weakening over time and not being able to supply the card with enough power, and the usual solution for that related to downclocking the card a bit. Probably not related to stutters tho.

Mist rendering is generally GPU bound. Tried performing a performing clean driver installation during installation process (if you ever used Nvidia inspector, then after re-installation default profile has to be applied in the Nvidia inspector also?

You might also want to run up task manager and list all processes that use your GPU along with Valheim and disable others. Xbox gamebar, your GPU tweakers, recording software, Chrome or Discord hardware acceleration, etc... Those rarely cause stutters tho.

[Ketonasarus]

Originally posted by MaCarBre:

Originally posted by Ketonasarus:

Can you record your stuttering while having F2 window opened? I have a 1070 card and have no stutters related to Mist alone. How high is your TDP on your 1080ti when Mist is getting rendered? I tend to get a lot of crash reports from 1080ti users in Valheim, due to PSU weakening over time and not being able to supply the card with enough power, and the usual solution for that related to downclocking the card a bit. Probably not related to stutters tho.

Mist rendering is generally GPU bound. Tried performing a performing clean driver installation during installation process (if you ever used Nvidia inspector, then after re-installation default profile has to be applied in the Nvidia inspector also?

You might also want to run up task manager and list all processes that use your GPU along with Valheim and disable others. Xbox gamebar, your GPU tweakers, recording software, Chrome or Discord hardware acceleration, etc... Those rarely cause stutters tho.

It's interesting you mention that. The power usage is always pinned when looking directly at the mist (which would be upwards of 260 watts). Otherwise, I would say that most of the time, I see anywhere from 60-130 watts being produced. But, that doesn't really change the stuttering at all.

This power supply is only a couple years old, Seasonic brand, it's 650W, so plenty for the 1080 Ti and the measly 60 watt 6600K.

I actually tried a clean driver install using DDU before starting this thread, forgot to mention that - it didn't do anything different.

Using task manager, I can see Valhiem and System are the only two using GPU resources when playing


I took a video, but it doesn't really do the problem justice, since stuttering is not horrible when I'm standing still, only when moving around a lot.... need two pairs of hands for that

Here's the link to the unlisted video on youtube:
https://youtu.be/a5qUVPFA-fU?feature=shared

[MaCarBre]

Originally posted by Ketonasarus:

I went to Mistlands again with my 1070 and i7-6700K to check if anything stutters, but I'm not noticing anything while moving in the same loading cell.

It's hard to see from a handhelp video what's going on. Was thinking more of the lines you recording your gameplay via Nvidia experience. Don't think it's needed tho. You really shouldn't be having any type of stuttering while standing still, so if you do, it should definitely be fixable.

- Do you stutter when you switch your build to pre-Ashalnds on Valheim properties in steam library (beta tab)? New world and new character creation required, then flying to Mistlands via debugmode.
- Does the stuttering stop when you lower in game setting and set lower FPS limit?
- Checked your Player.log to see if there is any error spam going on there?
- When you generally un-install the game, do all the files in installation folder get removed or some are left?
- Have you ever used Nvidia inspector to tweak any driver settings? (if so open it again and restore default profile).
- Try unplugging as many USB devices as you can, to eliminate input as being related to stutters.
- Tried disabling G-sync in general on Nvidia control panel?
- Try rebooting with only Microsoft services by going start → msconfig → system configuration → services → hide Microsoft services → disable all others.
- Tried disabling game mode on windows and game bar
- Try changing Physix processor in Nvidia control panel from auto to CPU or GPU
- Return your custom boot.config changes to default and keep them on default until this is solved
- Stuttering related to CPU and C-states doesn't have to happen in all games, rather can happen on some game that use specific Unity engine. At least test resetting your BIOS to default if you don't wanna test disabling C-states.
- I would also attempt to undervolt the card a bit to see if there is any difference