Trollstav leveling

[YoulluPukki]

Does it worth it? Does it do anything? More trolls to summon?

[Goreion]

You can summon max 2 trolls with the upgraded version. Is it worth it? I would say yes. You can drop 2 trolls in a Ashlands fort or 2 trolls in a goblin fort and everything just dies and its glorious to watch.

I usually just run around the Ashlands fort ramparts and drop trolls till everything dies, then clean up any mobs that are left. The sheer devastation the trolls cause is amazing.

[Ollienor]

But what's the point in levelling it? I can't see any reason to level it up? level 1 trollstav summons 2 trolls. Level 3 summons 2 trolls. Only stat increase is durability and I wandered the Ashlands for 3 days and nights and my trollstav was only about 10% damaged. A waste of resources if you ask me... Unless you're going to tell me the trolls are 50% increased damage and health or something? It should be 1 troll level 1, 2 trolls level 2, 3 trolls level 3, that seems logical.

[OctoberSky]

Level 3 dead raiser can call 3 skellet so this may be an oversight on level 3 trollstav only calling 2 trolls. Their effectiveness in any case is more tied to your blood magic skill than the trollstav level although I would not stick around after their summon to put a shield over them. I believe there is still a defect that your blood magic does not improve for every kill by the fire troll. Pity. You would probably explode your skill by dropping a couple of them into a fortress.

[Ollienor]

Originally posted by OctoberSky:

Level 3 dead raiser can call 3 skellet so this may be an oversight on level 3 trollstav only calling 2 trolls. Their effectiveness in any case is more tied to your blood magic skill than the trollstav level although I would not stick around after their summon to put a shield over them. I believe there is still a defect that your blood magic does not improve for every kill by the fire troll. Pity. You would probably explode your skill by dropping a couple of them into a fortress.

But all levels of trollstav summon 2. 1, 2 and 3, all summon 2. Summoned trolls have no connection to blood magic, you don't improve bloody magic by summoning them or from their kills, nor will a shield extend to the trolls.

I can see no reason to upgrade a trollstav, it gives nothing.

[Ollienor]

I use level 4 dead raiser constantly, it's my most used staff/possibly joint with staff of protection. EVERYTHING I have is max level (apart from trollstav, because there's no point)

[OctoberSky]

Maybe an oversight, maybe by design. In either case, you've made the right call.

[Zombits]

Originally posted by Ollienor:

I use level 4 dead raiser constantly, it's my most used staff/possibly joint with staff of protection. EVERYTHING I have is max level (apart from trollstav, because there's no point)

it's stupid on their part. I upgraded it in case, but according to wiki there's nothing , just block armor and duration

[2Yudes]

100p agreed with this comment thread. I am just playing around with some magic in mistlands now that you can get gear more than lvl 2. Def disappointed to hear the trollstav doesn't lvl blood magic, or even would be effected by it (other than cost of eitr to summon). I'll say the skele's are a pain to lvl but they are super fun to utilize. Was looking forward to more blood magic and summons play.

unfortunate they haven't tied the trollstav to bloodmagic enough to have a similar feel to the dead raiser. Missed opp. but maybe they fix this soon or change it up with deep north and 1.0

Also the quality lvl not summoning more trolls is just pure foolishness? clearly the dead raiser summons more with lvl... its a great mechanic... I'm just guessing they felt it was too OP with scaling trolls and more of them.. but lets b real.. consistency is everything in gaming. this is just baffling and stupid to change blood staff mechanics on the 2nd itm set, when the first tier works pretty well (other than the skeles being kinda wonky with AI). Was also hoping trolls would be better for this (seems like they are from what im hearing)

Testing soon for myself but yikers

[Nerevar]

its currently not worth it to upgrade the staff just like it isnt worth it to upgrade dynwyrn or basic flametal weapons.

the summoned trolls do NOT scale with blood magic at all. they always have the same dmg and the same HP.

summoning them inside fortresses is dangerous. they can break the fortesss chests and if thier contains despawn youre ♥♥♥♥♥♥. only do this if youre ready to loot right away afterwards.

overall they are kinda fun to use for mineing copper nodes as the summoned meteor will just shatter most of the node. plus you can use them to wreck dvergr bases without any kind of hostility as the troll itself isnt considered a player attack by the dvergr. so they will fight it but not you.

but the troll is actually just mainly a big distraction to tank attacks. it has 2000 hp which is more than any regular creature in the entire game and they resist blunt dmg aswell.

wierdly enough they are immune to spirit dmg which makes no sense as they are clearly undead. probaly an oversight.

thier dmg however is really low for a ashlands tier summon. its nearly the same as a regular troll in terms of dmg output.

they are basically meant as giant distraction tools to divert enemy attention away from the player.

cool addition overall but sole reason to level blood magic remains the staff of protection for now. the dead raiser is just unpractical as the skeletons absolutly suck at keeping up with a runnning and jumping player.