Best Weapon

[Mr_Puddins]

What is your favorite weapon or weapon type and why is it your favorite?

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(unmodded) - I like the Atgr polearm. It has a good combo, long range (for melee), and a great 360 special attack that staggers enemies. It can be wonky on slopes though.. Hard to kill short animals sometimes, like wolves... o.O But otherwise, I just account for this early and get on a level plane. The Atgr's range is such that even when yer knocked back some you'll still follow through and hit with your combo.

(modded) - Dual Double axes are freakin awesome... The special attack cuts down trees SOOO fast. Though, they short range in combat, gota be like face to face with an enemy. Basic attack is meh in my opinion. To deploy the whole combo is too much exposure. If you get hit by some enemies it knocks you back and then yer melee range is too short to finish combo.

Note - Don't even say magick staffs cuz obviously making firestorms and lightning bolts crash on enemies is awesome. xD

[katsuragi]

The best 3 weapons (because it depends on the situation) are all from Mistlands. Dagger & Sickle, the two handed sword, and the crossbow. They outclass everything that came before.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by katsuragi:

The best 3 weapons (because it depends on the situation) are all from Mistlands. Dagger & Sickle, the two handed sword, and the crossbow. They outclass everything that came before.

this is false math wise simply.

there is no overall best weapon currently.

but the most universal useful weapon is the bow simply.

[Humpenstilzchen]

I love Krom

[katsuragi]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by katsuragi:

The best 3 weapons (because it depends on the situation) are all from Mistlands. Dagger & Sickle, the two handed sword, and the crossbow. They outclass everything that came before.

this is false math wise simply.

there is no overall best weapon currently.

but the most universal useful weapon is the bow simply.

Nah... what I said is true. Particularly the move set on the 2 hander (Krom) makes it the best.

Keep in mind this isn't a game of lateral upgrades. It's a game of stages. Whatever the highest stage you are in, those are the best weapons. Right now the highest stage is Mistlands so those are the best weapons. When Ashlands comes out, the weapons there will be the best.

[Mr_Puddins]

Simply stating the weapons from the most current biome isn't very convincing to me.

I suppose I should have asked - What's your favorite weapon and why?

I was actually hoping to get some discussion going on the merits of various weapon types.

[Uber Kruber]

I always loved the Frostner. It may not be the best, but it is my favourite by far. Upgraded it to lvl 4 and used it ever since. I can´t quite remember wether this was based on anything but me liking the weapon though, as the last time I played was 9 months ago.

[thesink05]

With some luck, you can get the Abyssal Razor pretty early which can carry you far and allow you to use metal on armor crafting.

The Fang Spear is extremely cost effective for that point in the game. Spear throwing in general is more versatile than some realize, try popping leeches with it sometime.

In group play, the utility weapons are also amazing. Dig a hole, harpoon an enemy and drag them in. Use the hoe to raise the ground beneath you to escape fulings.

[Zombits]

I stopped being raped or having to run away in mistlands once I unlocked mage weapons.

[Kursor1]

The best weapons are the ones that work best for your personal play-style. So try out the cheapest version of each weapon type as they become available and see how you feel about 'em. stone axe, flint knife, flint spear, stagbreaker, bronze mace/sword/atgeir. (note the flint knife is a bit weak, but the copper knife most certainly is not.) Bronze mace rather than club because the club doesnt have the special attack. Iron battleaxe if you can stand the expense. Try 'em all out and keep the ones you like. (Due to special needs you will probably need at least 2 and maybe 3 different weapons, but you do you.)

[WuffWabbit]

Hypothetically, Mistwalker will be the best weapon going into Ashlands considering it is both frost AND spirit. The enemies will be fire and undead. Frostner might be worth considering too since it's ALSO blunt on top of those things and undead are weak to it.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by katsuragi:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

this is false math wise simply.

there is no overall best weapon currently.

but the most universal useful weapon is the bow simply.

Nah... what I said is true. Particularly the move set on the 2 hander (Krom) makes it the best.

Keep in mind this isn't a game of lateral upgrades. It's a game of stages. Whatever the highest stage you are in, those are the best weapons. Right now the highest stage is Mistlands so those are the best weapons. When Ashlands comes out, the weapons there will be the best.

your claim remains false.

elemental dmg is in generel better especially for the later enemies as they resist all phys dmg for the most or are flyers.

krom is SLOW as hell. its far from the best weapon. it can do strong single hits but well you can already oneshot seekers with the mistwalkers 2ndary attack aswell. so why deal with the slower animations on top of loseing the frost effect? ON TOP of loseing the shield parry bonus.

and anyone who says the crossbow is better than the bow has no idea how the math behind both works clearly.

youre looking at purely the numbers there and purely the numbers on single hits. not actual dps numbers. but dps is what matters if you wanna define "the best weapon" to begin with.

and thanks for the blatantly obivious and fully unneeded statement that the latest biome weapons are the strongest numbers wise. well no ♥♥♥♥ sherlock. who would have tought about that? that statement was a waste of words on your end. and also frostner exists. and is well. the best weapon in the plains and early mistlands for melee despite beeing mountain tier. but lets fully ignore that right?

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by WuffWabbit:

Hypothetically, Mistwalker will be the best weapon going into Ashlands considering it is both frost AND spirit. The enemies will be fire and undead. Frostner might be worth considering too since it's ALSO blunt on top of those things and undead are weak to it.

the part about undead beeing weak to blunt is a common myth. skeletons are the only undead enemy type actually weak to blunt. rest is neutral. well technically growths are weak to it and are undead but both growths and skeletons have so little hp that it just doesnt matter that they are weak to blunt.

frostner is outclassed by mistwalker in every way currently even on blunt weak enemies. and bear in mind mistwalker will get to level 4 with ashlands. frostner is maxed.

mistwalkers base slash is over TWICE as high as frostners blunt. so even on a weak to blunt enemy frostner would do less dmg than mistwalker.

we also dont know if all ashlands enemies will be weak to frost. spirit is a given as its just logical given what they showed but they said recently they dont wanna follow the "all fire biome enemies are weak to frost principle" as it would make the biome too simple to counter.

[jonnin]

I love the look of the silver sword, but its obviously outclassed later.

best for me is simply the crossbow. It pretty much deals with everything well.

In melee, torn between 1h sword & 1h mace types. But which depends on what you are fighting... frostner is great for its slow effect but only dead take spirit damage which makes it generally weak while porcupine delivers pretty consistent damage. That leaves the nothing special but quite effective blackmetal sword as my third. Mistwalker is disappointing.

Blackmetal axe is surprisingly good for a tool.

Everything else does lower damage or is 2h. I don't care for 2h, as I love my shields.

[Mr_Puddins]

Originally posted by thesink05:

With some luck, you can get the Abyssal Razor pretty early which can carry you far and allow you to use metal on armor crafting.

The Fang Spear is extremely cost effective for that point in the game. Spear throwing in general is more versatile than some realize, try popping leeches with it sometime.

In group play, the utility weapons are also amazing. Dig a hole, harpoon an enemy and drag them in. Use the hoe to raise the ground beneath you to escape fulings.

Oh yea dude, Spears rock, I love them. And yea Fang Spear is actually very economical. Certainly not the Iron Spear for ten iron... xD

I never thought of that tactic with Fulings. Thankyou

[Frank Dunn]

Atgeir has a lot of usefulness. If you are ok with clipping the attacks through walls, it trivializes many things. The bow is by far the most useful though. Killing enemies at range is really the best strategy for survival.