Docks

[Wolf0nkrack]

Is there a trick i am missing to having a dock? every time I build one in the water it breaks due to storms causing the water to rise over it. I'd really prefer to not have to make it out of stone.

[Exodite-Dragon]

Weathering from the elements won't reduce exposed wood to any less than 50% durability. Any wood support placed below the water line, attached to stone or not, will take weathering damage to 50%. If you plan to make a dock from wood, you can at least cover it with roof pieces to prevent anything above the water line from weathering.

[knighttemplar1960]

In the vanilla game, water by it self won't break a dock. It only takes it down to half health (you can eliminate that by attaching thatch to the dock floor. The thatch stops the water damage even if the thatch is under the dock floor rather than over it. This allows you to hide the thatch under the dock for aesthetic purposes).

What breaks a dock is a creature spawning near the dock and attacking it. Doesn't take long for the dock to go down if it started at half health. The wave action bumping your boat into the dock repeatedly can also break your dock (or your boat). If your boat breaks and its far enough out in deeper water the nails can sink and you won't be able to recover them. I usually just take the axe to the boat in shallow water and then put the parts in a chest in a boat house that I build on the shore. If you use only a single workbench and no other base items no raids will occur where you boat house is and the materials for the boat will remain safe for the entire game as long as you make sure that all creatures that spawn by your dock are gone before you leave the area.

[Wolf0nkrack]

oh my gods! i have been repairing like a mad man trying to prevent the dock from being destroyed!!! thank you so much for explaining how that works. i feel so silly now having wasted so much time repairing and all the wasted resources!!!! Loki's fault for sure!

[Outhous]

Repairing anything doesn't not use resources.

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Outhous:

Repairing anything doesn't not use resources.

Except your body/ego after a death. At least defensive spikes also cost something to "rebuild" but not to "repair" while still a bit intact.

[Nerevar]

wood takes dmg up to 50% when in contact with water or rain unless its attached to stone or marble. except for roof tiles and beams.

its possible to make completly safe and water proof harbors in the game in vanilla.

personal example :


https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3106146076

[Wolf0nkrack]

WOW!! thats amazing! everytime i see other players screen shots for builds im just blown away, all my stuff is so...... we'll call it rustic. lol

[M'Hael]

Originally posted by Wolf0nkrack:

WOW!! thats amazing! everytime i see other players screen shots for builds im just blown away, all my stuff is so...... we'll call it rustic. lol

Nothing wrong with that, not all, but most of the big builds are most likely done with no cost building...especially so with black marble, there just isn't enough of it and its too hard to get for a mega build.

[Jyin]

You can make dock out of wood.
You just have to cover it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3106252817

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[Nerevar]

Originally posted by M'Hael:

Originally posted by Wolf0nkrack:

WOW!! thats amazing! everytime i see other players screen shots for builds im just blown away, all my stuff is so...... we'll call it rustic. lol

Nothing wrong with that, not all, but most of the big builds are most likely done with no cost building...especially so with black marble, there just isn't enough of it and its too hard to get for a mega build.

do not make false claims. what you see on my picture was done purely by handfarming the marble myself. there is WAY more marble than most players think. i didnt even explore 25% of the total mistlands in my seed and found over 100k marble.

its not "too hard to get" it. it just requires more effort than stone but since its teleportable its pretty simple to get like 10000 marble for example especially with a stone cutter for help. but if you keep playing a world for long enough you can make a mega build with it without restorting to cheats. took me many months over the course of this year to build my giant marble megabase. but it has come along nicely. its still not finished but the fps has started to take a hit and i cannot make the final additions for now as if the lag gets too bad the base loses its purpose.

long story short : your base will hit the instance limits aka fps cap point long before your world will run out of marble. thats for certain.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Wolf0nkrack:

WOW!! thats amazing! everytime i see other players screen shots for builds im just blown away, all my stuff is so...... we'll call it rustic. lol

what you see was build over many months. its not something you can build in like 1 week.

i farmed. then build. then did some combat. and some exploreing. and some farming and cooking. build more. farmed marble again. the base keept growing over time. i still have shots from the frist big marble harvest i did in january of this year^^

[M'Hael]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by M'Hael:

Nothing wrong with that, not all, but most of the big builds are most likely done with no cost building...especially so with black marble, there just isn't enough of it and its too hard to get for a mega build.

do not make false claims. what you see on my picture was done purely by handfarming the marble myself. there is WAY more marble than most players think. i didnt even explore 25% of the total mistlands in my seed and found over 100k marble.

its not "too hard to get" it. it just requires more effort than stone but since its teleportable its pretty simple to get like 10000 marble for example especially with a stone cutter for help. but if you keep playing a world for long enough you can make a mega build with it without restorting to cheats. took me many months over the course of this year to build my giant marble megabase. but it has come along nicely. its still not finished but the fps has started to take a hit and i cannot make the final additions for now as if the lag gets too bad the base loses its purpose.

long story short : your base will hit the instance limits aka fps cap point long before your world will run out of marble. thats for certain.

Like I said, not everyone but most... I doubt many people are willing do what you did, its impressive. That being said, having to spend many months farming a material makes that material "hard to get" in my honest opinion. I personally have spent more hours than I care to acknowledge farming materials for large bases and those materials are much more easily accessible than marble...I have 91 pickaxe and have died quite a bit...I don't think many people are willing to go to those lengths...especially when a lot of their screen shots are taken in flying mode which in my book pretty much 100% means the project was completed in no cost mode. Anyways, I wasn't trying to knock your accomplishment or accuse you of anything, your base looks impressive and its even more impressive that you did it legitimately.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by M'Hael:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

do not make false claims. what you see on my picture was done purely by handfarming the marble myself. there is WAY more marble than most players think. i didnt even explore 25% of the total mistlands in my seed and found over 100k marble.

its not "too hard to get" it. it just requires more effort than stone but since its teleportable its pretty simple to get like 10000 marble for example especially with a stone cutter for help. but if you keep playing a world for long enough you can make a mega build with it without restorting to cheats. took me many months over the course of this year to build my giant marble megabase. but it has come along nicely. its still not finished but the fps has started to take a hit and i cannot make the final additions for now as if the lag gets too bad the base loses its purpose.

long story short : your base will hit the instance limits aka fps cap point long before your world will run out of marble. thats for certain.

Like I said, not everyone but most... I doubt many people are willing do what you did, its impressive. That being said, having to spend many months farming a material makes that material "hard to get" in my honest opinion. I personally have spent more hours than I care to acknowledge farming materials for large bases and those materials are much more easily accessible than marble...I have 91 pickaxe and have died quite a bit...I don't think many people are willing to go to those lengths...especially when a lot of their screen shots are taken in flying mode which in my book pretty much 100% means the project was completed in no cost mode. Anyways, I wasn't trying to knock your accomplishment or accuse you of anything, your base looks impressive and its even more impressive that you did it legitimately.

i was more refering to the part about marble beeing limited not that you implied i was cheating so dont get me wrong.

and keep in mind i didnt spend MONTHS farming only marble. i played the game. naturally. i guess the total time spend farming purely marble is maybe about 200 hours of the total time invested and keep in mind STONE comes as a side effect so does copperscrap. what takes long is mineing the skulls and ribcages yes. but for the towers and ruines and infested mine marble all you need is these 3 things :

bench.
portal.
stonecutter. (stone is everywhere in mistlands. just bring 2 iron and the 20 wood you need wood anyway for the bench.

with this most marble structures aside queen altars and large 2 floor dvergr towers are harvest in less than 10 minutes each. and some of them give up to 700 marble. no pickaxe needed.

that beeing said my pickaxe skill is at 100 since quite awhile now due to this. side effect.

does it take longer than stone and wood? yes.

is it impossible or is marble rare? not at all as you can see. i can show a screen of how little of my total map is actually explored. all bosses where killed. no items brought from other worlds. new character aswell. been playing him and this world since jan on and off. keep in mind i didnt play every month of 2023^^ i took breaks.

if you keep at a base or world itll envolve and grow naturally. its slow. but its also really made by your own hands and will see further use with the new updates and biomes.
every part of my base has a practical gameplay purpose. i limited myself to just metal and marble (aside where its impossible like benches) and decided i wanna try to make a base that is funcational and has almost everything while also looking decent.

it worked out atleast for me personally as i like the look and the options it provides me. its a bit far away from ashlands but its not that far from deep north. so i will make a smaller outpost for ashlands probaly.

[glass zebra]

You also get like 50 marble if you spam aoes on mine staircases and I think I got close to a small chest full of marble after fighting the Queen with ember.

[Kursor1]

You dont spam aoes- you plant a stonecutter and just dismantle the various black marble towers and bridge bits you find around the place. (Aoe from a maul IS useful for destroying the structural iron at the base of the bridge pillars though).
Didnt bring iron? Mine an ancient sword or armor to get a couple, drop your portal, and go home to bring back a smelter and a little coal, smelt it and youre good to go. Need blackmetal for a ballista or other stuff in the mistlands? Same thing except smelt 10 iron to make a blast furnace locally
So as long as youre carrying a portal with you (and if you arent, why not?) then even if you forget to bring iron for a stonecutter its easily fixable without having to sail home to get some.