This game is stupid hard, at swamp, keeping dying, can't get iron

[TidBuryFukles]

I quit this game. It is stupid hard and I have had it. It was hard but reasonable up until the point here where I am completely maxed on Bronze gear, I beat the level 2 boss and now I have to walk through endless swamp to find a next to impossible crypt so I can finally get iron. The swamp is WAY TOO HARD for the level gear I have. And don't give me any B.S. how I need to play better or other BS that I can make the game easier. NO. I play fine. And I am not going to nerf the game. You get overwhelmed too easy in here with too many druegers, wraiths and skeletons all the time. I can take on 2 of these, hell 3 of them. 6+? NO. And no BS here either how I have stealth better. FIX THE GAME.

[morrokain10587]

Originally posted by MyUrp1:

I do wonder if someone set a tag wrong on Swamp spawning. It's the only biome I've seen do this.

So, I have seen that happening in some swamps (lots of enemies) and other swamps are relatively tame. It just seems to be an RNG thing. The first swamp I went in was a swamp that happened to have bonemass in it and I ran into a relatively dense location of 9 spawners and two nearby abomination spawners alongside oozes and leeches. That was before wraiths were even part of the equation if I missed my daytime window while crypt hunting/exploring.

It was like hitting a brick wall at full sprinting speed while naked.

Other large swamps have just had a few draugers and oozes and the occasional leech with sporadic spawner clusters.

[MrSchweda]

yeah i had turnip foods all stacked and ready for that boat trip bronze gear as high as i had available, potions set up. As good as I could get. So I did it part plan, part skill, and a hefty chunk of luck. XD

[MrSchweda]

after i got the foothold on that shore it got easier. benches prevent spawns being too close, spiked walls to keep them from seeing the benches and thus attacking them. portal for easy access. i was lucky no abomination was close by.

[MsSweatyPants]

Originally posted by MrChoke:

I quit this game. It is stupid hard and I have had it. It was hard but reasonable up until the point here where I am completely maxed on Bronze gear, I beat the level 2 boss and now I have to walk through endless swamp to find a next to impossible crypt so I can finally get iron. The swamp is WAY TOO HARD for the level gear I have. And don't give me any B.S. how I need to play better or other BS that I can make the game easier. NO. I play fine. And I am not going to nerf the game. You get overwhelmed too easy in here with too many druegers, wraiths and skeletons all the time. I can take on 2 of these, hell 3 of them. 6+? NO. And no BS here either how I have stealth better. FIX THE GAME.

The game is pretty hard, they make it pointlessly unrewarding also. Mistlands is a huge letdown and horribly unbalanced, Plains armor not being made of black metal which is plentiful and easy to get is absurd... and I don't want as a reward for beating a boss the previous biome becomes more difficult now...why? Stop changing the economy/loot/balance of the biomes that is one "slider" they refuse to add and I don't know why...nobody wants Mistlands crap in the meadows and plains Fulings in the meadows when they are trying to play with friends...new players can't even survive one hit it makes 0 sense...

[MsSweatyPants]

Originally posted by MrChoke:

I quit this game. It is stupid hard and I have had it. It was hard but reasonable up until the point here where I am completely maxed on Bronze gear, I beat the level 2 boss and now I have to walk through endless swamp to find a next to impossible crypt so I can finally get iron. The swamp is WAY TOO HARD for the level gear I have. And don't give me any B.S. how I need to play better or other BS that I can make the game easier. NO. I play fine. And I am not going to nerf the game. You get overwhelmed too easy in here with too many druegers, wraiths and skeletons all the time. I can take on 2 of these, hell 3 of them. 6+? NO. And no BS here either how I have stealth better. FIX THE GAME.

Sent you an invite if you need someone to help out :)

[Riitoken]

Originally posted by MrChoke:

I quit this game. It is stupid hard and I have had it. It was hard but reasonable up until the point here where I am completely maxed on Bronze gear, I beat the level 2 boss and now I have to walk through endless swamp to find a next to impossible crypt so I can finally get iron. The swamp is WAY TOO HARD for the level gear I have. And don't give me any B.S. how I need to play better or other BS that I can make the game easier. NO. I play fine. And I am not going to nerf the game. You get overwhelmed too easy in here with too many druegers, wraiths and skeletons all the time. I can take on 2 of these, hell 3 of them. 6+? NO. And no BS here either how I have stealth better. FIX THE GAME.

The swamp is a stamina check, and it is a patience check for iron.

me: "Ha, it's just a swamp, I got this."
swamp: "Hold my beer."

Stamina is essentially energy/fuel and without it, you can't do hardly anything except stand there and get hit.

Suggestions:

1 BE VERY PATIENT AND METHODICAL.
2 Take your time and build elevated roads/ramps/walks etc.
3 Force yourself to stay dry (not wet).
4 Make good use of fires and stay rested.
5 NEVER be in the swamp when not rested.
6 Have Eikthyr's power ready as an emergency escape.
7 Build well-protected bases at the edges of the biome.
8 Eat high stamina food.
9 Use poison resist potion.

10 Leave the swamp before sundown.

Invading the swamp involves a steady methodical use of your infrastructure to overcome the biome (FIRST). The swamp biome is somewhat subtle ... you don't realize how badly it has degraded your energy until it's too late. The swamp sucks you in and then surrounds you with enemies and eats you. It is one of the single best RPG environs in gaming history.

You can beat the swamp, but if and only if you are willing to do what is necessary to adjust your playstyle accordingly.

The swamp is the "hold my beer" biome.

[Mharr]

Originally posted by Riitoken:

The swamp sucks you in and then surrounds you with enemies and eats you. It is one of the single best RPG environs in gaming history.

☝️

[morrokain10587]

Originally posted by Riitoken:

3 Force yourself to stay dry (not wet).

I generally agree with your post but a tiny nitpick. I'm pretty sure this is impossible as the swamp always has light rain in it. Even using a fire to dry off is pointless as the second you move out of shelter you will have the wet debuff again.

Now the rested bonus is a must though that's for sure.

[Foxglovez]

Two health, one stam foods works well. All recipe foods, you have outgrown simple foods. The most important thing you can find is the flower there. Once you have it, leave the swamp with great haste and dunna return until you have the new food. That little bit of extra buff is truly worth it. Now is also the time to look at foods not just as food but as a tool for regen. Low regen food should never be used over high regen food even if it looks better. Those ticks of health will save your unworthy asss more than you know. If a food is similar, regen wins.

[Proton Decay]

Its not hard, youre just bad.

[Foxglovez]

Lower the combat level to casual if it is too hard - or figure it out. Better to choose door #2 but there are options. Once you do figure it out though it will help you understand the rest of the biomes. As someone said, Swamp is the first test, rest was a tutorial. Everyone has to go through it.

[Stugots]

Swamps are easy, just wait until the mistlands...oh boy.

[malcolm_cline]

All of the above suggestions seem useful to me. I have died multiple times everywhere (I don't like blocking, but I do like archery). For the swamps I start at the edge, go up a tree that is immovable and build a shelter above the reach of any enemies. I have killed every swamp creature from that level of safety (even Bonemass). Put a teleporter on your swamp base and a fire and bed if you desire. I use the core wood from the black forest to support a pretty large platform. Occasionally I have to open holes in the floor to shoot mobs that want to hide/wait right under my feet.

For moving out into the swamp itself, I go on a scouting run to find those crypts and mark them on the map. I also take the hoe and level ground everywhere so that I am walking on mud instead of in the water. Either bring wood, or cut wood (this aggros the local residents) to build LOTS of workbenches everywhere. I enclose each workbench in a wooden fence so they are harder to knock out. Abominations in particular will try to kill them when you run across one. 34 wood (10 for bench and 24 for fence) will create a single anti-spawning point, so it takes a bunch. I sometimes save a little wood by placing the workbench against one of the big trees.

For the spawners in the rock circles (somewhat like stonehenge), I circle the place and take them out from long range with archery. Usually 2 green ones and one purple one at each site. Something like 75 hit points will take out the green ones; the purple are usually a single shot.

For the crypts, (1) get the dvergr circlet from the trader and wear it for light; (2) use poison potions since this removes the protection from the abomination mask; (3) watch your stamina levels; (4) if you encounter an elite or starred draugr, run like crazy for the exit until you get enough iron to up your protective armor.

If you can get some silver from an early trip to the mountains, use it for some kind of weapon. I do like the stag breaker for inside the crypts ( I use it BEFORE I open that last bit of muddy stuff leading into a room--usually kills everything that might be waiting for me). Silver does terrific damage to undead of all types. Love my silver sword for that reason alone.

[Riitoken]

Originally posted by morrokain10587:

Originally posted by Riitoken:

3 Force yourself to stay dry (not wet).

I generally agree with your post but a tiny nitpick. I'm pretty sure this is impossible as the swamp always has light rain in it. Even using a fire to dry off is pointless as the second you move out of shelter you will have the wet debuff again.

Now the rested bonus is a must though that's for sure.

I hear ya. And that is why roads can/should have cover. Always fight high and dry ... ready to egress if necessary.

[Rope brick]

Swamps have a weird way to play em, it's certainly a challenge the first time getting the hang of it, especially fighting the swamp boss bonemass, but as others have said: troll-hide, poison resistance mead, certain food types, rested buffs, and using your bow, mace, and some sort of slash or pierce weapon helps out in this biome greatly...but just wait till you get to the mistlands before you complain about enemies :D