Immersive mode questions.

[blprice61]

1) How do you deal with changing forsaken powers?

2) How do you find Haldor & Hildir?

For 1. I'm using a house rule. I set up a world used just to hang heads and change powers. It would be nice if there was another portal mode - portal nothing - no equipment, no inventory - just the character - could use to go back and forth to forsaken altar. As is, some of the forsaken powers are pretty much completely useless in immersive mode.

For 2. If I haven't managed to blunder into them by the time I hit the Mountains, I use the 3rd party world map viewer set to just show spawn point and merchant locations. Trouble is it is tempting as hell to use it for a bit more while you're there lol. It would be nice if the cartography table somehow showed you the nearest merchant spots.

Truth be told, I'm highly tempted to just turn map back on after getting cartography table. Would make sense from an RP perspective and solve the merchant problems.

How do you do it?

[Veseljko]

Originally posted by blprice61:

Truth be told, I'm highly tempted to just turn map back on after getting cartography table. Would make sense from an RP perspective and solve the merchant problems.

How do you do it?

Maybe you can use a mod for cartography table. My group use map printer.
We have cartography table in our main base and we share our exploration (even if you dont have a visible map, the game registers exploration and you can share it). So once a week we all share our exploration and one guy with a mod prints the map and share it in discord. So even if we don’t have a map available in the game, we can still check explored part at any time. It’s like taking a map out of your pocket. You can see the map, but you don’t know your exact location on the map.

[blprice61]

@Veseljko thanks for the tip on the map printer mod. I've been reluctant to use mods but with Mistlands.. mists.. and the immersive mode implementation I'm reconsidering.

[Zep Tepi]

For the powers, sail/walk back to the starting base. I usually don't change them much though. I just use Eikthyr until I unlock Bonemass.

I'm using a cartography table mod this time around and it works. I can only see the map at my base, no minimap. I haven't found the merchants yet, but the bosses are clearly marked when I find them. So I assume it's just a matter of time until they show up on the map too. (I am doing portals this time around though.)

[Faceplant]

Is there any benefit to Hildir? I just found her for the first time in this playthrough, but from what I can tell she only sells clothes.

I use the same "cheat" for Haldor that you do. When I'm tired of not having the Meginjord (usually hauling iron in swamp), if I haven't stumbled across him, I use the map viewer.

I don't change forsaken powers. I just keep Bonemass ability when I get it. I've always done that, even when I had use of portals, so it's really no different.

[blprice61]

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Is there any benefit to Hildir? I just found her for the first time in this playthrough, but from what I can tell she only sells clothes.

Indirectly. At least one of the quests gives you access to something that is usually unlocked only after killing Yag chicken eggs . The stamina cost reduction properties of the clothing would be interesting except they've locked it up to only when wielding xyz so pretty pointless overall.

[Imhotep]

Originally posted by blprice61:

1) How do you deal with changing forsaken powers?

2) How do you find Haldor & Hildir?

For 1. I'm using a house rule. I set up a world used just to hang heads and change powers. It would be nice if there was another portal mode - portal nothing - no equipment, no inventory - just the character - could use to go back and forth to forsaken altar. As is, some of the forsaken powers are pretty much completely useless in immersive mode.

For 2. If I haven't managed to blunder into them by the time I hit the Mountains, I use the 3rd party world map viewer set to just show spawn point and merchant locations. Trouble is it is tempting as hell to use it for a bit more while you're there lol. It would be nice if the cartography table somehow showed you the nearest merchant spots.

Truth be told, I'm highly tempted to just turn map back on after getting cartography table. Would make sense from an RP perspective and solve the merchant problems.

How do you do it?

Keep the map on. Its highly unlikely that any of those who did any exploration back in the day did not create their own map to take with them as this was very common place to do.

Maps would be conjured using the skin of boar and or sheep and or goats as parchment wasn't a thing.

There is no chance that in any game where you can restrict features is removing a map something viable because anyone with an arm and or hand is going to create one to log where they went and or drop flares or land markers.

There is no logic in playing any game without a map even if the game is a survival game.

Survivalists make maps and do so fast. they are important.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by blprice61:

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Is there any benefit to Hildir? I just found her for the first time in this playthrough, but from what I can tell she only sells clothes.

Indirectly. At least one of the quests gives you access to something that is usually unlocked only after killing Yag chicken eggs . The stamina cost reduction properties of the clothing would be interesting except they've locked it up to only when wielding xyz so pretty pointless overall.

That could have been useful, but I'm just about to fight Yag, so probably not worth it at this point.

When I first approached Hildir she said I had to perform a quest and gave me directions, but I didn't want to do the quest at the time, so I pretty much ignored it. When I went back she wasn't giving a quest anymore, so, playing with no map, I have no idea where it is, other than a very general direction that I remember.

I don't know if there's any way to reset it, but that could be a problem as well.

[Faceplant]

Originally posted by Imhotep:

Originally posted by blprice61:

1) How do you deal with changing forsaken powers?

2) How do you find Haldor & Hildir?

For 1. I'm using a house rule. I set up a world used just to hang heads and change powers. It would be nice if there was another portal mode - portal nothing - no equipment, no inventory - just the character - could use to go back and forth to forsaken altar. As is, some of the forsaken powers are pretty much completely useless in immersive mode.

For 2. If I haven't managed to blunder into them by the time I hit the Mountains, I use the 3rd party world map viewer set to just show spawn point and merchant locations. Trouble is it is tempting as hell to use it for a bit more while you're there lol. It would be nice if the cartography table somehow showed you the nearest merchant spots.

Truth be told, I'm highly tempted to just turn map back on after getting cartography table. Would make sense from an RP perspective and solve the merchant problems.

How do you do it?

Keep the map on. Its highly unlikely that any of those who did any exploration back in the day did not create their own map to take with them as this was very common place to do.

Maps would be conjured using the skin of boar and or sheep and or goats as parchment wasn't a thing.

There is no chance that in any game where you can restrict features is removing a map something viable because anyone with an arm and or hand is going to create one to log where they went and or drop flares or land markers.

There is no logic in playing any game without a map even if the game is a survival game.

Survivalists make maps and do so fast. they are important.

There's a big difference between someone scratching out a map on parchment and the GPS-like map that most games have. There have been many suggestions for making a restricted map that would make map usage more realistic, and I hope it happens some day.

It's also perfectly reasonable to use your own arm and had to create maps on a pad of paper. It's also possible (and advised) to drop markers. Most of my markers tend to be minimal shacks that get scattered all over the shores where I stay the night, at least for sea travel. Overland I mostly use the shorelines and mountains for guidance.

In my current game I have a big red troll that tells me I'm close to the trader. (O∆O)