Level 3 troll armor enough for swamp?

[Faded]

Im not grinding for bronze armor set at all. I have level 2 bronze axe, level 2 bronze mace, level 2 bronze buckler, level 3 finewood bow, meads, good food, good various tools upgraded, and full set level 3 troll armor.

[Forcedge]

You should at least max out your buckler so you can safely parry the abominations. When you get to the swamp the first thing you should do is hunt abominations and get enough roots to get maxed out root helmet and root chest ASAP

[Cooperal]

Many would recommend it over bronze. Each of its levels are just one defence point behind bronze of the same level.

The resources needed to make and upgrade replacements basically come to you so that is a big plus if you do end up losing your gear.

You also get to retain a faster movement speed. On top of moving around the world faster it should make evading hits easier too, though it may be worth mentioning that this only applies to the torso and leg slots as none of the helmets give a movement speed penalty. The sneak bonus from having the full set is also a thing but I don't find that to be a big deal.

[Whiplash711]

Kill enough of the Abominations first thing make that armor. Resist for poison and better archery are the perks. What you need wondering the swamp. Troll Armor is the lite armor version of that tier.
Never forget one on one that shield can block and stun giving easy hits. I do fine the sword a better choice attacks are faster.

[Zep Tepi]

As far as how to kill abominations, you can lead them over a fire spout, or stand on top of a crypt. They can't hit you up there, but be careful about getting knocked off.

[Whiplash711]

Messaggio originale di Zep Tepi:

As far as how to kill abominations, you can lead them over a fire spout, or stand on top of a crypt. They can't hit you up there, but be careful about getting knocked off.

Also some of those fallen trees are also plenty high.
That part in the cent that hangs low is your target though. If you can not go high then find trees of 5 or more grouped together and use them. When it turns it's back to go around jump out get some wacks and retreat. That hit and run with a sword and bow will get you your trophy.

[Beatnik59]

I usually prefer bronze armor for when I first enter the swamp, but there is a valid case for troll armor. The way I see it, neither the advantages of protection from bronze, nor the stamina and mobility advantages of troll, are going to offset the other to such a degree that it'll be easier with one over the other. Like @Whiplash711 said, the armor you need is that root armor which is better than either troll, or bronze, or even iron, I'd argue, for swamp duty. I only used iron armor for Bonemass, but I probably could have done it with just a highly upgraded root set.

Whatever option you choose, I agree with what @Forcedge said about the buckler, because you're going to need something to protect from arrows and melee strikes. A new swamp spawns a lot of mobs, because of the large number of spawners active when you first get there. Drägurs hit hard, their arrows hit hard, and if you run into a 1 or 2 star, those things will stagger you easily unless you have something to block or parry with.

[Shaken_Widow]

yes, troll armor is preferred due to it being light armor and the swamp slugging you down with the wetness debuff.

less stamina usage is better, and troll armor also protects very well for light armor.

the only real metal weapons you need are the atgeir and the mace.

[jonnin]

I won't say troll armor isn't good enough for the whole game. It has its fan club, and that is fine.
I will point out that it does not block poison as well as heavier armor, same as it does not block being hit as well as heavier armor. I think its a good way to die repeatedly unless you are a pro at the game. I expect a pro would not be asking this question, so I have to say that troll armor is high risk for you. I could be wrong, of course! Personally I think troll armor is bad news unless you are playing as part of a group where you can get more backstab hits via teamwork. Compared to bronze, its iffy enough that I won't argue, but keeping it on in the iron age as a serious option ... is, at the very least, both brave and a statement about your combat skill.

[Dr.Doom]

Troll Armor MK IV adds only 6 to your armor class (+2/piece)**. That does not provide any additional/vital bonus over the MK III armor. Upgrade the armor later when the troll hides begin to clog your leather storage boxes.

In the beginning of your first visits in swamp biome, make use the troll armor's sneak buff to get some first-strikes now and then to thin out groups of monsters.

Make sure to have good Run and Jump skills: sometimes retreat is the best defence! Mark Sunken crypts on your map and escape to these safe points if neccessary.
Ever wondered what the jumping skill is for? Jump on a crypt and you are safe, even from the abominations. Draw your axe and fight them from safety -- when their legs clip through the building. When you are thrown off >> Jump skill...

Inside of the Sunken crypt, use Iron hammer to... hammer through the blocked passages. Attack the monsters without being attacked.

Collect your first iron ore, craft the Iron shield (the thingy you can parry well with).
Level your Parry skill and train yourself to parry.
Now things are getting more relaxed, as large groups of monsters are rarely encountered in the swamp.
Jump on trees or crypts to damage/take out monsters with your bow. Shield/1h weapon for single monsters, small groups. Two-star elite draugs, retreat is best...

Rinse and repeat until your storage box is filled with iron. Try to stay awake while mining the mud in the Sunken crypts. :)


** Ok, I forgot the cape.

[Faceplant]

That's all great advice, but you skipped right the end with the iron hammer (I assume iron sledge). The iron sledge requires that the OP has found the trader and has enough funds to purchase all the Yamir Flesh, has killed (likely) multiple draugr elite to get the trophy, and has already mined enough iron to make the sledge.

Not only that, but once you have the iron sledge, none of the rest really matters, since you can pretty much own the swamp with it, other than abominations (although I haven't actually tried it against an abomination).

That said, Stagbreaker is more attainable before entering the swamp / early swamp, and works similarly, it's just not as effective.

Also, if you're in trouble, you don't have to necessarily jump on a crypt, you can just go inside if you have the key or it's unlocked. If you've cleared it, it's perfectly safe. If you haven't, you might have to face some mobs, which might or might not be worse than what you're running from.

I like to make sure I have the key when I'm first going though a swamp to open the doors that I pass so that I know I can hop in one later if necessary even if I don't have the key on me.

[morrokain10587]

Some tips on early Abomination hunting:

If there is even a CHANCE that it will turn to night, don't go! Wraiths are seriously nothing to mess with early on in the swamp. This is why I don't recommend finding a crypt to stand on. Wraiths and archers can force you to have to move and then the abomination will be close to on top of you.

You will quickly find that flint and bronze arrows do next to nothing against Abominations unlike how effective they are against trolls. The only good arrow in the swamp imo is the fire arrow. The arrow itself won't do much to Abominations, but they are weak to fire and you can take advantage of that. That's really the only effective way to take them down at range if you don't know their moveset yet. My first kill was using flint arrows and I swear it took like 20 minutes to take it down lol.

The best way, imo, to defeat Abominations is to learn their moveset and get good at dodging it. Using a sword for the slashing damage will damage them much faster even that fire arrows as long as you can dodge getting hit. When doing this strategy it is ideal to be fighting the Abomination alone. Also, if your stamina gets low or you need a breather, run between ancient trees and force the Abomination to have to go around them. It can buy you a lot of time.

[Kursor1]

You can do the swamps as long as you do it slow and careful. Your armor etc is adequate for 1 v 1 fights, but not for multiple opponents. Make sure you carry at least 1 full stack of fire arrows for abominations, and preferably 2. Recommend you upgrade the axe and buckler asap as materials permit, and the bow.

[Subsonic]

The best way to kill abominations is to lure them over the surtling spawn. Just run around a bit and keep it on the spawner, it melts.

[Dr.Doom]

Messaggio originale di Faceplant8:

That's all great advice, but you skipped right the end with the iron hammer (I assume iron sledge). The iron sledge requires that the OP has found the trader and has enough funds to purchase all the Yamir Flesh, has killed (likely) multiple draugr elite to get the trophy, and has already mined enough iron to make the sledge. [...]

Ja, sorry, sledge/hammer**, I play the German version, here it's called "Eisenhammer" (Iron hammer).

And, yes, Iron sledge was a bit too specific, as the Stagbreaker (Hirschbrecher) will also do the necessary job: The key point is the splash damage/effect range of the two weapons.


** Does anyone remember the 80s series Sledge Hammer with David Rasche? ;-)