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Darkbirt Jul 30, 2023 @ 10:31pm
Why can't smoke go through the Cage floor?
I build a cage floor on top of my chimney, so that bats can't enter. But I've noticed that the smoke doesn't go through the wide gaps of the cage floor. I'm surprised that the gaps aren't wide enough. Now I don't know how to hold the bats out of my room.
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Mharr Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:15pm 
It's a game mechanics oversight, materials that are solid for most things but immaterial to smoke don't exist, they probably should. Best you can do for now is overlapping baffles, or just have a big chimney that's not actually open to the sky, smoke will accumulate in there but reach a balance point and not flood the rest of the house.
Gladi8er65 Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:20pm 
the smoke particles are actually 2m x 2m in size, and cannot fit through any opening smaller than that...

You don't have to vent the smoke outdoors at all... you only need to build a space where the smoke can rise and gather, until it times out....

here's a small example of venting the smoke into a "vent duct" along the ceiling... There is no opening to the outside, in this example.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2923700195
Mharr Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:22pm 
Did they not update smoke to be smaller?
KarlKuro Jul 31, 2023 @ 3:39am 
I thought the "hitbox" was 1mx1m?
Darkbirt Jul 31, 2023 @ 8:27am 
Does the smoke kill the bats, then it would solve my problem.

A vent duct is a bit difficult. The whole building is made of stone. Second floor is my room, first floor, important facilities and basement is for storage. The stone is on it's height limit, so a smoke vent isn't possible anymore.
Mharr Jul 31, 2023 @ 9:40am 
You can build wooden pieces on top of stone as if they were attached to the ground
umop-apisdn Jul 31, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Darkbirt:
Does the smoke kill the bats, then it would solve my problem.

A vent duct is a bit difficult. The whole building is made of stone. Second floor is my room, first floor, important facilities and basement is for storage. The stone is on it's height limit, so a smoke vent isn't possible anymore.

You don't have to vent it, you just have to give it enough room to get far enough from the fire not to put it out. The video in the comment above yours shows some interesting ways to do that, including several options that don't have any vent at all.
avatar.zero Jul 31, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Gladi8er65:
the smoke particles are actually 2m x 2m in size, and cannot fit through any opening smaller than that...

1m x 1m.

Well, 0.95m diameter sphere, to be more precise.
Darkbirt Jul 31, 2023 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by umop-apisdn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5wvMTLYxWI

thanks this really worked.

I didn't want any wooden pieces, because of the lower durability. But I was a layer short. Still some roof. Well if they attack the roof they are smoked.
Mharr Jul 31, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Well, you have iron - with enough of it you could maybe raise the maximum height of your stone build.
Darkbirt Jul 31, 2023 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by Banned For Stating Facts LMAO:
Originally posted by Darkbirt:
I build a cage floor on top of my chimney, so that bats can't enter. But I've noticed that the smoke doesn't go through the wide gaps of the cage floor. I'm surprised that the gaps aren't wide enough. Now I don't know how to hold the bats out of my room.
This is pretty crazy... what biome are you in that bats attempt to fly down your chimney? I think that's pretty funny, but also a neat programmed behaviour lol.

It haven't happened yet, but according to the wiki. After defeating Bonemass a lot of events get unlocked. Including an attack of bats. The most annoying is the being hunted by wolves just randomly in the mountains or plains.
Last edited by Darkbirt; Jul 31, 2023 @ 9:58pm
Darkbirt Jul 31, 2023 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by Banned For Stating Facts LMAO:
Originally posted by Darkbirt:

It haven't happened yet, but according to the wiki. After defeating Bonemass a lot of events get unlocked. Including an attack of bats. The most annoying is the being hunted by wolves just randomly in the mountains or plains.
Unreal... I haven't defeated Bonemass yet, as I am just chilling out in limbo in my winter mountain top cabin lol. The hunted by wolves thing would be annoying, but I don't see how it can happen when you are away from your base and the things that I read need to be present for these events to activate?

Best defence for the wolves thing would be to carry a stack of stone, and the hoe, and just raise ground until you're on a little earthen tower, where you can unleash hell with your bow?

I don't want to spoil anything, but the wolves attack when you're out you're base. I was just happily digging up my first silver and suddenly the the event start and my digging pit was surrounded by wolves. Still, I recommended to defeat Bonemass, from the silver on, the first good weapons of the game becomes available (that I don't want to spoil.) The most scary thing are the attacks from the sky. I haven't (sorry a spoiler again,) a drake event yet. One drake isn't a problem, but more of them is.
Izny Aug 1, 2023 @ 1:15am 
wolves aren't that bad, compared to what you wake up when defeating more bosses :D
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Date Posted: Jul 30, 2023 @ 10:31pm
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