carrot soup vs carrot

[tools guy-kun]

is the difference between the bit of extra health and stamina, and the one extra health point per tick all that substantial?

as of right now...

1 carrot soup = 15 health, 45 stamina, 25 minutes, 2 hp/tick
1 carrot = 10 health, 32 stamina, 15 minutes, 1 hp/tick

clearly, the soup is superior stat wise, but remember it takes 3 carrots to make just one bowl of soup, so essentially, you get triple the value of a carrot plus you can carry x5 as more as you can with stew.

this makes me believe that it somewhat feels like a bit of a waste to turn carrots into carrot soup. I understand that any and all buffs can be important for any fight, still I'm not fully convinced if the trade off is completely worth it.

I just started playing recently, so I want to gather some thoughts from others to see if my logic is right or wrong here.

edit: thanks for the inputs, y'all. guess it is the better move to convert the carrots into soup. I'll start giving that a try rather than the carrots themselves. I usually get 60+ per harvest anyway, but I really wanted to make the mileage last much longer than originally intended.

[knighttemplar1960]

The extra stamina and longer duration more than make up for it. If you plant as often as you can harvest you'll rapidly have an over supply of carrots even if you breed and feed boars.

[sarteck]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

If you plant as often as you can harvest you'll rapidly have an over supply of carrots

Pretty much this. Anything that's easily farmable (from gardening to tames) is always worth it to convert into something better.

[Suzaku]

The main thing being that it's still an increase, and also 1 of 3 since you can eat 3 meals. The bonuses for cooked foods get larger and more impactful, so when you want to be at your best, you eat the best foods.

For just running around your base, eating the base ingredient is good enough to stop you from silly falling deaths or at least be better than nothing when fending off unwanted guests.

[vanflyhightanzek]

Go ahead and eat carrots see how far it gets you 😉.

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by vanflyhightanzek:

Go ahead and eat carrots see how far it gets you 😉.

well the point of this thread was to collect opinions on my opinion, and to see if people disagreed with me or not.

you can disagree with me and I'll respect it, but I'd like you to at least say it out right so I don't waste my time doing something that is clearly the wrong move to most experienced players, speaking as a new player.

[umop-apisdn]

Carrots themselves aren't worth carrying, once you're farming them, and you're only going to be eating carrot stew for a tiny amount of time, in the long run. Chuck them in the cauldron with some cooked deer meat and blueberries to get deer stew (45 hp and 15 stam, with 3 hp/tick), and stop wasting your time on whether carrots or carrot soup are better... you don't really want to stockpile either one, because they're both trash.

The best food[valheim.fandom.com] you can currently get your hands on is boar jerky, deer stew, and either minced meat sauce or carrot soup; it depends on whether your playstyle favors stacking health and regen, or maximizing stamina. Either way, it doesn't matter... it won't be long before you're eating sausages, black soup, and turnip stew; don't bother working yourself up over carrots.

[Foxglovez]

Soup Soup Soup. After you have your cauldron, you want to eat foods that are a mixture of ingredients. Yes, you have to gather the mats, yes it means you can't LeRoy Jenkins every minute of every day, but it's part of this survival game. Most deaths are caused by lack of preparation, trees, and running out of food and not realizing it. Looking at you three story house... So get used to gardening. Your carrots will mature in just a few days so get a bunch and make lots of soup, and some other things too. Check your recipe list to be sure you are aware of all the things you can make and what they require.
Exploring is basically being the best little hoover you can be.

[umop-apisdn]

Originally posted by Foxglovez:

Most deaths are caused by lack of preparation, trees, and running out of food and not realizing it.

(emphasis added)

Bonk.

[Not Known]

If you're a green thumb like me, get the Plant Everything (just don't plant barley/flax anywhere but in the plains!) and then you can over a lot of time become self-sufficient. If you're into raising boar, then you will be fattened from all the meads and pies you can make. I'm already self-sufficient with carrots, turnips, cloudberries, honey, mushrooms and thistle. Since I can't currently have a "farm" in real life, this is the closest I can get :D

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by kristynagel:

If you're a green thumb like me, get the Plant Everything (just don't plant barley/flax anywhere but in the plains!) and then you can over a lot of time become self-sufficient. If you're into raising boar, then you will be fattened from all the meads and pies you can make. I'm already self-sufficient with carrots, turnips, cloudberries, honey, mushrooms and thistle. Since I can't currently have a "farm" in real life, this is the closest I can get :D

I used to garden. I have a 1/4 acre lot and about 1/3 of it was garden. After my stroke I can't do that any more but I still garden. I built a hydroponics bench in an upstairs bed room. Its 3ft X 6ft but it cranks out food like crazy. I have patio tomatoes, patio cucumbers, and blue lake bush beans in that bench and we have to give away food to family members because it grows faster than my wife an I can eat it all (even freezing some of it for when the plants senescence and I have to start new plants). Works so well I'm considering adding an aquaponics bench and adding radishes, onions, and lettuce to the repertoire.

You might want to consider a small bench if you like gardening as much as I do.

[Maelstrom]

You also missed this:

Carrot duration: 600s
Carrot soup duration: 1500s

So you'll be getting a worse buff and eating almost as many carrots anyway.

Plant your carrots if you have so few of them that you're actually counting them. You get 3 seeds per carrot, you'll have carrots for days just like the rest of us quick enough.

Also, your stagger resistance scales off max HP. Getting staggered through a shield block bypasses armor and is the worst thing that can happen to you in this game and eating good food is a critical part of preventing it.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Blocking

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by Maelstrom:

You also missed this:

Carrot duration: 600s
Carrot soup duration: 1500s

So you'll be getting a worse buff and eating almost as many carrots anyway.

Plant your carrots if you have so few of them that you're actually counting them. You get 3 seeds per carrot, you'll have carrots for days just like the rest of us quick enough.

Also, your stagger resistance scales off max HP. Getting staggered through a shield block bypasses armor and is the worst thing that can happen to you in this game and eating good food is a critical part of preventing it.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Blocking

Actually, the wiki for the carrot seems to have a mistake. In my game, carrots provide a 15 minute buff, not 10 minutes. If carrots only provided a 10 minute buff, then this post wouldn’t exist.

The other info is still useful, though so I appreciate that a lot.

[John]

Originally posted by tools guy-kun:

Actually, the wiki for the carrot seems to have a mistake. In my game, carrots provide a 15 minute buff, not 10 minutes. If carrots only provided a 10 minute buff, then this post wouldn’t exist.

The other info is still useful, though so I appreciate that a lot.

I would say that carrots do have somewhat their place, if you're just building stuff and you need some small buffs, eating a carrot and some honey seems to work just fine. Although honey has been nerfed since the early days i still use it. It comes back in no time and with 10 hives i don't really run out of it.

For exploring and fighting, i kinda just go to the swamps as soon as i can before killing the elder with the best current foods, get some turnip seeds and plant those. Carrots and carrot soup is very mediocre, turnip stew is a S tier food on the other hand. Easily obtained before the Elder, technically better than Onion Soup with only 2 hp and 5 stamina less, but more healing and a longer duration and it even works for me in the Plains. So i use that for literally 4 biomes until i finally can make bread which is usually at the end point of the plains.

[Sedna]

You always want the best food. It's more important than having the best weapons. Therefore it is a bad idea to waste carrots by eating them uncooked when you could make soup (or deer stew) out of them.

[Empada]

I ill try to help in this matter.

First, you can plant carrots and carrots seed, that means that you can have a loooot of it in little time, normally I have to stop planting it in my games, even when I feed Boars with it. That goes to all farmable items.

What you should eat goes with what are you going to do and the chances of getting attacked. exemples:

Early game you are going to build your base and farm. you can eat the carrots and honey, it will be suficient, you still do not have lots of food so you do not spend your best foods doing trivial tasks. If you get raided is should not be a problem you still have one slot to eat a Health food and the early raids are not tht dangerous.

You want to farm or build late game. You will have so many food that carrot soup will be your junk food.

You want to sail. Eat carrot and honey, maybe boar jerky. Normally notting happens while sailing to need better food anyway.

You want to explore on foot. You could eat ony carrot but in this case is best if you eat the soup. You will run for longer, if you use Eikthyr power you will waste less time of it catching your breath, meaning runnig for longer periods. You will have more stamina to attack enemys, you will be able to kill them faster. If you find a powerful foe that you cannot handle, you can run for longer and flee the fight.

It all depends on what you plan to do, and remembering that you are limited to only 3 foods at the time. this limitations forces you to eat better food to get better bonus, but they are only needed in adventure situations. You can skip the soup if you are foraging in the Meadows where you already know (dont do it far away, some times there are transitions from Meadows to Plains that are not easy to identify and you will be dead in no time)