Scrapper

[Levodrago]

Does anybody else think that we need a build that, when we scrap an item, gives us the materials back? We are up to Mistlands and we need really upgraded padded armor. I REALLY want to be able to scrap my old iron armor and upgrade my padded with the iron I get from it. :|

[Rhapsody]

It'll make for good backup gear.

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by gnidiel_ipad:

Does anybody else think that we need a build that, when we scrap an item, gives us the materials back? We are up to Mistlands and we need really upgraded padded armor. I REALLY want to be able to scrap my old iron armor and upgrade my padded with the iron I get from it. :|

https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/45?tab=description

[Honorable_D]

They won't cause it would allow you to cheese the "no metal through portals" thing. You'd just craft gear that takes metal, then break it down once you get through the portal.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Yeah, the scrapping mod exists, and it's 100% a used exclusively as a cheese tactic to circumvent no ore portals. I'm not against the idea to be honest, but the device used would have to be so difficult to build, like requiring a level 7 Forge, that there would be no point in trying to use it to cheese the portal mechanic, or if you are using it to cheese portals, you're using it between two already well-established bases anyway which is still perfectly in-line with Iron Gate's reasoning behind Ore/Ingot portal restriction.

If I were to add it in, it would be:

Plains-level tech minimum.
Require a lot of metal on its own (30+)
Use something significantly harder to obtain than coal as fuel (Maybe a new resource refined from Tar)
Take a very long time to melt down anything (1 whole game day at least so you can only sleep cheese like a third of the timer)
Make the Return fractional, and only return materials from level 2 or higher equipment anyway, and only return metal ingots, no linen, chains, leather, etc.

Again, it has to be so irritating to use, it's literally only used to recycle upgraded gear.

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Yeah, the scrapping mod exists, and it's 100% a used exclusively as a cheese tactic to circumvent no ore portals.

lmao suuuuure. The mod is used because it is an easy bin and it is nice to recycle some stuff. There exists portal mods if you want to cheese metal.

Like the game hasn't already a hundred ways to cheese stuff. 🙄🙄🙄

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Yeah, the scrapping mod exists, and it's 100% a used exclusively as a cheese tactic to circumvent no ore portals.

lmao suuuuure. The mod is used because it is an easy bin and it is nice to recycle some stuff. There exists portal mods if you want to cheese metal.

Like the game hasn't already a hundred ways to cheese stuff. 🙄🙄🙄

It's used exclusively to cheese portals because when people realize how easy it is to just go mine more materials, they realize it was a dumb mod. Not because there's other portal mods. Unlike portal mods too, this one works on other people's dedicated servers.

[Alturis]

It might work if you could scrap it for a reduced amount. Significant like only half as much or less.

[CombatWombat]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

lmao suuuuure. The mod is used because it is an easy bin and it is nice to recycle some stuff. There exists portal mods if you want to cheese metal.

Like the game hasn't already a hundred ways to cheese stuff. 🙄🙄🙄

It's used exclusively to cheese portals because when people realize how easy it is to just go mine more materials, they realize it was a dumb mod. Not because there's other portal mods. Unlike portal mods too, this one works on other people's dedicated servers.

So you mine the ore built a smelter, smelt it. Built a workbench and a forge. Upgrade them to built an item that can hold enough metal that this makes any sens. Or transport a shi!load of lvl 1 items moving back and forth a few times. All to avoid the fun of simply driving your boat with a full load of ore for a few minutes. 🤷‍♂️

That's dedication, they deserve it,

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

It's used exclusively to cheese portals because when people realize how easy it is to just go mine more materials, they realize it was a dumb mod. Not because there's other portal mods. Unlike portal mods too, this one works on other people's dedicated servers.

So you mine the ore built a smelter, smelt it. Built a workbench and a forge. Upgrade them to built an item that can hold enough metal that this makes any sens. Or transport a shi!load of lvl 1 items moving back and forth a few times. All to avoid the fun of simply driving your boat with a full load of ore for a few minutes. 🤷‍♂️

That's dedication, they deserve it,

It's not just about that, it's also about "Compressing" the metal too. A Single Iron Cuirass at level 4 is 2 full stacks of iron. So you save 99.9% of the weight and 1 slot by compressing it to a lvl 4 cuirass. You effectively quadruple your ore capacity, so yes, people are doing exactly what you said, but not under your reductionist reasoning.

[Zep Tepi]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

lmao suuuuure. The mod is used because it is an easy bin and it is nice to recycle some stuff. There exists portal mods if you want to cheese metal.

Like the game hasn't already a hundred ways to cheese stuff. 🙄🙄🙄

It's used exclusively to cheese portals because when people realize how easy it is to just go mine more materials, they realize it was a dumb mod. Not because there's other portal mods. Unlike portal mods too, this one works on other people's dedicated servers.

Why on earth would I use a recycle mod to cheese portals when portal mods exist? If I'm modding anyway, I'm going to do it right.

I use the recycle mod because hitting the wrong button will give me two draugr fang bows instead of upgrading the one I have.

[banana shake]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

It'll make for good backup gear.

I've found that most of the time backup gear is useless and it's just easier and quicker to sneaky deaky your items back. Higher biome levels just absolutely crumple any weps and armor from lower level biomes.

[Brother]

one really simple reason is that it would break the point of not being able to teleport metals through portals, thats probably it, just make a ton of like nails and go through and deconstruct, i know alot of people dont like the no metal portal thing but it does make you adventure and not just back and forth easy peasy, dont get me wrong it is annoying sometimes but its understandable, i hope at somepoint they make a portal for metals but it just costs and absurd amount of stuff and you need like silver or something for it

[stvlepore]

I got a recycling mod after creating new armor, when I thought I was upgrading existing.

[Levodrago]

Thank you for your teasing. I say all this because me and my cousin, in our world, the wind is almost always against us. Even though we have the Moder power, It only lasts five min. The mistlands is SO FAR AWAY from our base (which is in the center of the map).

[Brother]

Originally posted by gnidiel_ipad:

Thank you for your teasing. I say all this because me and my cousin, in our world, the wind is almost always against us. Even though we have the Moder power, It only lasts five min. The mistlands is SO FAR AWAY from our base (which is in the center of the map).

an idea would be to set a portal near mistlands, set up a little perimeter for it and chest to store boat building stuff, so you can just have the sailing home part to worry about, just dismantle boat at home go back to mistlands, put it in chest until you need it to sail back again