Mining

[WastedZhit]

Hi fellow people, don't you think we should remove the dirt from cobber mines? Anyone who can contact them? I've got no clue who to talk to.
Thanks in advance!

[Gladi8er65]

removing copper from the top of copper node will reveal dirt underneath, however there is much much more copper below the dirt (only a small amount of copper on top)

I mine copper a different (safer) way... I dig along the edge of the copper, then dig straight down as far as it lets me, then turn and dig right into the copper node at the bottom...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2919888706

Digging into the copper like this will give an underground "cave" inside it, and enemies can't / won't be able to reach you, as long as you keep the top of it (at ground level) intact.... This also removes any dirt (wherever you dig). inside the copper node.

Once you have carefully dug out the inside of the copper node, you can actually set up things you need like a workbench (for tool repair), portal, coal kiln, smelter, cooking fire, bed etc...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2908646625

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2858961419

This gives you a safe, easy place to process your copper ore, without having to transport it all back to some distant base, and once you process some of the copper you can craft a forge and actually make bronze and various tools/weapons right at the mining site.

Even if you don't want to make an outpost under the copper, It is still safer to mine it this way (from under it) because the enemies can't get you unless you open up large holes in the top, also this removes all the dirt so you can mine ALL the copper.

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Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

removing copper from the top of copper node will reveal dirt underneath, however there is much much more copper below the dirt (only a small amount of copper on top)[...]

Nice. I usually dig into the dirt a little, but never find much more copper that way. I had no idea there was that much more underneath.

[knighttemplar1960]

Gladi8er65's trick also works for silver nodes in the mountains as long as the sliver node remains connected to the earth. If the silver node (or the copper node) becomes "unanchored" to the earth it pops into a shower of ore and stone. You can also often find 2 or even 3 silver nodes in a single spot.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2856429325

@OP it takes the same number of pick swings to get copper ore as it does to get tin ore. Just throw the rock away if you don't need it. The devs did it this way because that's the way it is in nature. There is a great deal of stone mixed in with copper, silver, (and gold) deposits but mineable tin is often found in large blobs with hardly any stone intrusions.

[Ebyl]

If you plan to build structures with stone later in the game, you may want to keep that stone (just build rock piles somewhere). It takes a LOT of stone to construct buildings, so it could save you some time down the road.

[Eightball]

@Gladi8er65 You are a true hard rock miner!

[WastedZhit]

I am digging into the dirt as well to get all the copper, but is it on purpose that there is dirt inside the copper??

[FissionChips]

The terrain clips through the copper deposit, and the copper deposit is made up of several 'nodes'. The whole deposit is solid, some think it's actually hollow, but because the nodes can be large and they break as a whole this leaves quite a bit of clipped through terrain before you find the next node.

Devs kinda have a problem here. Dirt can't be partly at one level and partly above, so the only way to not clip terrain through the deposit is to set terrain below deposit level - however then all deposits will be fully exposed, no blending into terrain.

Probably the best thing devs could do it have nodes terraform terrain that clips through them on destruction, partly exposing surrounding nodes.

This is just my laymens take, I have zero connection to the devs, nor have I even read most of what they've said about valheim.

[Athex]

Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

removing copper from the top of copper node will reveal dirt underneath, however there is much much more copper below the dirt (only a small amount of copper on top)

I mine copper a different (safer) way... I dig along the edge of the copper, then dig straight down as far as it lets me, then turn and dig right into the copper node at the bottom...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2919888706

Digging into the copper like this will give an underground "cave" inside it, and enemies can't / won't be able to reach you, as long as you keep the top of it (at ground level) intact.... This also removes any dirt (wherever you dig). inside the copper node.

Once you have carefully dug out the inside of the copper node, you can actually set up things you need like a workbench (for tool repair), portal, coal kiln, smelter, cooking fire, bed etc...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2908646625

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2858961419

This gives you a safe, easy place to process your copper ore, without having to transport it all back to some distant base, and once you process some of the copper you can craft a forge and actually make bronze and various tools/weapons right at the mining site.

Even if you don't want to make an outpost under the copper, It is still safer to mine it this way (from under it) because the enemies can't get you unless you open up large holes in the top, also this removes all the dirt so you can mine ALL the copper.

Hello,

I always wanted to try to dig under a skeleton or troll cave to see if it's possible to settle under, have you try it ?

I know Elder spawn shrine is a very large and solid roof for anything you put under, it also have a nice looking too !

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Ebyl:

If you plan to build structures with stone later in the game, you may want to keep that stone (just build rock piles somewhere). It takes a LOT of stone to construct buildings, so it could save you some time down the road.

later in the game you wanna make structures with black marble not stone. stone is now used for landshapeing mostly.

and getting stone lol. once you get to the mistlands there is GIANT STONE PILLARS everywhere. like the one in the plains sometimes. except bigger. and they are EVERYWHERE. you can mine 1000 stone in like 15 minutes there. there is no reason to ever safe stone in this game anymore.

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Ebyl:

If you plan to build structures with stone later in the game, you may want to keep that stone (just build rock piles somewhere). It takes a LOT of stone to construct buildings, so it could save you some time down the road.

later in the game you wanna make structures with black marble not stone. stone is now used for landshapeing mostly.

and getting stone lol. once you get to the mistlands there is GIANT STONE PILLARS everywhere. like the one in the plains sometimes. except bigger. and they are EVERYWHERE. you can mine 1000 stone in like 15 minutes there. there is no reason to ever safe stone in this game anymore.

There never was any reason to save stone. The world is huge and there are rocks every where.

[Ebyl]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Ebyl:

If you plan to build structures with stone later in the game, you may want to keep that stone (just build rock piles somewhere). It takes a LOT of stone to construct buildings, so it could save you some time down the road.

later in the game you wanna make structures with black marble not stone. stone is now used for landshapeing mostly.

and getting stone lol. once you get to the mistlands there is GIANT STONE PILLARS everywhere. like the one in the plains sometimes. except bigger. and they are EVERYWHERE. you can mine 1000 stone in like 15 minutes there. there is no reason to ever safe stone in this game anymore.

You're right, everyone plays like you do!

[Samoth]

From what I understand and my time in play, that in fact the copper nodes specifically do have a small void within them. As you play you will get familiar with the models and the distribution of 'facets'. Using then will also create a roof for utilizing the craft tables. Generally w/o the need for either walls or roofs. Again something you learn over time, and while I do not have it linked to place in responses, I do have a clear shot of a 98% excavated copper node. And also is titled that way.That and other things are documented there. Fair to say they are roughly 4-5 tiles high, something of a muffin, the puffy crown is what you see most times. And 10-15 tiles long. That is simply the rough ore, you will only get a portion of it as raw metal. And half again in bronze conversion.find 2-3 that are as close to your main camp, it should be enough to propel you towards swamp. If you want it. You can incorporate all sorts of methods and means to use these objects to your advantage. Just be shrewd, or watch twitch. GL! Feel free to follow-up my door is generally open. Easiest way to see/learn locate a node that is on a very sharp slope. And if you are lucky and keep you eyes peeled , you'll find some that are 40-60% exposed. Half the work done for you. Cut to the bottom with antlers and around then go at it, the node, with metals(picks).

[Gladi8er65]

Originally posted by WastedZhit:

I am digging into the dirt as well to get all the copper, but is it on purpose that there is dirt inside the copper??

I know it doesn't make sense compared to how it would be in real life, but that's the way the game engine handles terrain (dirt) elevations in this game.... It's not a "bug" and I don't think the devs can do anything to change it.

If you want the dirt gone, you have to dig it out, and the best way (shortest way and least amount of "work") is to dig it from underneath... as you dig into the node, it will remove all dirt above where you dig, in a couple hits, rather than digging downward and having to dig up to 16 hits to accomplish the same results.