Why Black Metal for sap extractor? uuugh

[Sure, Not]

uuugh and I cannot transport it through teleporter now I have to sail all the way to bring black metal to build extractors. I get not able to bring supplies from a biome but having to bring supplies there was no hint of this so annoying, why not use locally available materials

[That guy with the Spoon]

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

[eladswerdna]

Originally posted by That guy with the Spoon:

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

Yep, I run into the plains all the time while exploring mistlands areas. Plenty of goblins abound!

[archaicwasteland]

Originally posted by That guy with the Spoon:

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

I suppose the good news is that the Ancient Armor or Weapons that are mineable in Mistlands drop Scrap Iron that you can smelt to make the Blast Furnace. Iron Bars seem to be scavenge-able from some of the structures in Mistlands as well.

[Yakumo_2020]

Originally posted by archaicwasteland:

Originally posted by That guy with the Spoon:

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

I suppose the good news is that the Ancient Armor or Weapons that are mineable in Mistlands drop Scrap Iron that you can smelt to make the Blast Furnace. Iron Bars seem to be scavenge-able from some of the structures in Mistlands as well.

considering the amount of Iron Players need to make and upgrade the Padded Iron armor I think it would have been better if the devs had added Iron ore to the Plains. They could have put sub-surface Iron deposits (like silver) that you needed to use the Wishbone to find. Maybe even thrown in some Copper and Tin to make setting up Plains and Mistland bases easier. It also would have made the game so much less of a grind with regards to getting the gear you need for Mistlands.

I did the Iron grind once with my original character, got so frustrated with having to mule the Iron around that I installed the Unrestricted Portals mod because I didn't want to do that kind of a mats grind ever again. I do hold myself to a solid rule. I have to defeat the Boss of a biom before I allow a metal from the biom though a portal, and even then they have to be ingots, not ore. So I mine and smelt on site, then portal to where needed. My head cannon is that smelting removes the last bit of a dead Forsaken's hold on the metals it once held dominion over. Be nice if the devs set the game up that way someday.

[jonnin]

the mistlands is very forgiving about metal.
If you haul a smelter there, you get iron and copper easily, and for BM you can use said iron to make the furnace from portable materials. You don't have to drag any metal there, assuming there are plains not too far away or if you wait for a few night fuling to wander by (they spawn anywhere at night for someone who is in the mistlands).

[Ralifur]

Mods Mods Mods Mods Mods.

Make the game play the way you want it to! :-)

[FissionChips]

It didn't take long to set up on my first venture into mistlands. Now I'm wandering mistland islands in my long boat with metal & needles in the hold and a cold sweat at anything that sounds remotely like Gjall coming to sink my boat. Fun times 😊.

[Asmosis]

Originally posted by archaicwasteland:

Originally posted by That guy with the Spoon:

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

I suppose the good news is that the Ancient Armor or Weapons that are mineable in Mistlands drop Scrap Iron that you can smelt to make the Blast Furnace. Iron Bars seem to be scavenge-able from some of the structures in Mistlands as well.

The rampart pillars have ~30 iron bars each, so you can get up to 90 refined iron (and about 1k marble) in about 5 minutes.

The ancient weapons/armour are OK if you just need a bit (which is all you need for mistlands gear) but if your serious ramparts are where its at. Or a trip back to swamp.

Dwarf towers have ~90-120 copper if your wanting to build something big out of copper walls.

[M.Red]

Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:

Originally posted by archaicwasteland:

I suppose the good news is that the Ancient Armor or Weapons that are mineable in Mistlands drop Scrap Iron that you can smelt to make the Blast Furnace. Iron Bars seem to be scavenge-able from some of the structures in Mistlands as well.

considering the amount of Iron Players need to make and upgrade the Padded Iron armor I think it would have been better if the devs had added Iron ore to the Plains. They could have put sub-surface Iron deposits (like silver) that you needed to use the Wishbone to find. Maybe even thrown in some Copper and Tin to make setting up Plains and Mistland bases easier. It also would have made the game so much less of a grind with regards to getting the gear you need for Mistlands.

I did the Iron grind once with my original character, got so frustrated with having to mule the Iron around that I installed the Unrestricted Portals mod because I didn't want to do that kind of a mats grind ever again. I do hold myself to a solid rule. I have to defeat the Boss of a biom before I allow a metal from the biom though a portal, and even then they have to be ingots, not ore. So I mine and smelt on site, then portal to where needed. My head cannon is that smelting removes the last bit of a dead Forsaken's hold on the metals it once held dominion over. Be nice if the devs set the game up that way someday.

the cool thing is there are iron ore nodes and iron ores in the game allready (spawnable via cheats) but not used so far
(not talking about iron scraps)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2912967654

[kampfer91]

Use world jump exploit . No more issue .

[Bjorn]

yeah mistlands update was the point were the game shifted from hard/challenging to tedious/tiresome for me and i also had no plains biome connected to the mistlands i found so far

its nice that you can find scraps of previous metals in the mistlands but even with the whisps i still find it horrible to build in there and i think its time for some qol updates, like upgradeable portals or so

[Tangoblue]

Originally posted by That guy with the Spoon:

i guess a lot of mistland biomes are bordering plains so farm some and smelt it there?

My experience also. On my map there's a village next to Mistlands. I left it alone. I like watching the Fulings and Seekers get into a brawl. I have a thing about giant cockroaches so I give the Fulings a hand now and then...

Looks like the Dverger Mages can kick Fuling butt without breaking a sweat. Love seeing that.

[Asmosis]

Originally posted by Bjorn:

yeah mistlands update was the point were the game shifted from hard/challenging to tedious/tiresome for me and i also had no plains biome connected to the mistlands i found so far

its nice that you can find scraps of previous metals in the mistlands but even with the whisps i still find it horrible to build in there and i think its time for some qol updates, like upgradeable portals or so

I suspect they tried to slow down the pace with Mistlands since it'll be 6-12 months before we get another update so they wanted to make it "last". When viewed from the perspective of playing it for that length of time, taking 30 minutes to explore 50m in front of you starts to seem reasonable.

I think the intended approach initially was for players to use those blue mist lamps to clear the way, which i did for a time building paths with them.

Unfortunately Gjalls etc are programmed to attack those, which utterly defeats the purpose of building them as i left a breadcrumb trail right to my base.

[Nascarman]

I mean, there’s literally one mistlands exclusive item that isn’t teleportable, and it’s the extractor piece that really never has to leave the mistlands in the first place. This is like the only thing in the entire progression tree of mistlands that probably requires sailing material around (unless you’re lucky with biome arrangement).

It’s inconvenient, sure, but once you do it you never have to do it again, which is far better than having to scavenge and sail iron back to your main base each time you run out of it.