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Vinegaroon Dec 9, 2022 @ 7:36am
Troll Proofing
I want to build a castle that is raid resistant but also looks nice. How tall and how wide do dirt walls need to be to stop the big stick bois?
Originally posted by Hiryukaen:
Originally posted by Vinegaroon:
To clarify I plan on having a stone wall around the earthen structure for the looks, I will have a moat, and build on an elivated area. The outside stone can be damaged, but I don’t want rhe club clipping through to more important things. This will be adjacent to an inlet I am carving out to be a dock.

Sounds like you're looking for the attack range of the troll with tree (currently longest attack reach afaik.) If so, it's about 6-8m I think. I ususally just throw up a long corewood beam for measurement and build the walls outside of that beams length.
(Base)|-CoreWood@6m-|{wall about 2m thick}

Anything within 4m will def get smashed, Depending on how thick the wall is will affect how much negative space you have, but grand total you'll want about 8m total of buffer space from the outside of the wall before you start building.

https://prnt.sc/kePWJqBDwy9o
Red is 4m from wall, will 100% be smashed.
Orange is 5m from wall, can still be hit if the troll gets a clean attack angle.
Yellow is just shy of 6m from wall, can rarely be hit, but will be hit with a very clean angle.
That wall piece is exactly 6m from the inside of the wall and doesn't get hit. And the wall is about 1m thick at its peak, about 2 at the base.
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Kursor1 Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:10am 
Dirt walls, not stone? Really you just need to be able to stop their movement across them, so 1 raise wide and 2 tall will do it, but 4 tall is better. In either case you have to use your pick to carefully trim along the outside foot of the walls to make the side as sheer as possible so nothing can walk/run up and onto it. If you have the stone then 2 wide is better because its easier to make it pretty. Note that if at all possible your walls should be north-south and east-west to align with the grain of the world to look tidy. (Its hard to make the sides sheer enough to stop things walking onto them if theyre not aligned with the grain, as-it-were.)

Obviously you need to make them taller if you need to stop them throwing rocks too, but whether or not you need to stop rocks is a matter of individual base design
Rhapsody Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:18am 
Seekers and bats may be able to fly over the dirt walls regardless. IMO if you want a nice looking base, it calls for a moat instead of dirt walls, or just regular walls made of stone and reinforced with iron beams or cages. Multiple separated layers of defense can also be effective, but the best way of dealing with events is to lure the enemies away from your base.
Mozzy Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:19am 
Game max is 8 up and 8 down, for max differential height of 16 by terraforming earth 8 up while digging 8 down.

For trolls you need just tall enough to prevent throwing rocks over wall at your house. Assuming base ground next to wall is level ground - e.g. 0 , you need to raise wall ~7. 5-6 will allow troll to still throw rocks over wall and you can easily see their head and shoulders peering over the wall.

Raising earth is lot faster/easier than digging so you could do 7-8 up and be done, or extra insurance and 7-8 up with 1 down, 1 wide moat around the wall
John Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Seekers and bats may be able to fly over the dirt walls regardless. IMO if you want a nice looking base, it calls for a moat instead of dirt walls, or just regular walls made of stone and reinforced with iron beams or cages. Multiple separated layers of defense can also be effective, but the best way of dealing with events is to lure the enemies away from your base.

Yeah, i'd say a moat or modify a small offshore island into what you need it to be.
Krunsktooth Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:40am 
If you're looking to make dirt walls look better, one trick I learned recently is use the hoe or cultivator to put grass, or cultivate, pathen, or stone path it, and it will change the look of the dirt walls. A combo of different tops works in interesting ways too.
blankitosonic (Banned) Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:44am 
Or just look for a tiny island and cover it with workbenches , then build any castle you want with 0 raid problems
demandred1957 Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Mozzy:
Game max is 8 up and 8 down, for max differential height of 16 by terraforming earth 8 up while digging 8 down.

For trolls you need just tall enough to prevent throwing rocks over wall at your house. Assuming base ground next to wall is level ground - e.g. 0 , you need to raise wall ~7. 5-6 will allow troll to still throw rocks over wall and you can easily see their head and shoulders peering over the wall.

Raising earth is lot faster/easier than digging so you could do 7-8 up and be done, or extra insurance and 7-8 up with 1 down, 1 wide moat around the wall
I dig the moat down to water, but moat and wall defense is super effective. Wont stop flyers, but a lot less to worry about normally.
Loy Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:24am 
i just run out and kill all trolls
Loy Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:26am 
you can dig yourself into a copper mine and let the troll work
Vinegaroon Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:36am 
To clarify I plan on having a stone wall around the earthen structure for the looks, I will have a moat, and build on an elivated area. The outside stone can be damaged, but I don’t want rhe club clipping through to more important things. This will be adjacent to an inlet I am carving out to be a dock.
skOsH♥ Dec 9, 2022 @ 10:10am 
Dig a giant cliff around your base, and have your base by the water so you can have your boats ready.

Put the strongest chests with the most inventory slots and put them near your boats. This is the last resort you'll do. Or you could portal away and have your stuff in a different base

My base that doesn't seem to have the ability to experience raids, is right next to the water but the land above my base was a lot higher. I just dug straight down. I don't think Trolls go down cliffs. If they do, they'll sustain a ton of damage

I also fell a lot of trees and leave the logs on the ground to make the pathing difficult for mobs
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Hiryukaen Dec 9, 2022 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Vinegaroon:
To clarify I plan on having a stone wall around the earthen structure for the looks, I will have a moat, and build on an elivated area. The outside stone can be damaged, but I don’t want rhe club clipping through to more important things. This will be adjacent to an inlet I am carving out to be a dock.

Sounds like you're looking for the attack range of the troll with tree (currently longest attack reach afaik.) If so, it's about 6-8m I think. I ususally just throw up a long corewood beam for measurement and build the walls outside of that beams length.
(Base)|-CoreWood@6m-|{wall about 2m thick}

Anything within 4m will def get smashed, Depending on how thick the wall is will affect how much negative space you have, but grand total you'll want about 8m total of buffer space from the outside of the wall before you start building.

https://prnt.sc/kePWJqBDwy9o
Red is 4m from wall, will 100% be smashed.
Orange is 5m from wall, can still be hit if the troll gets a clean attack angle.
Yellow is just shy of 6m from wall, can rarely be hit, but will be hit with a very clean angle.
That wall piece is exactly 6m from the inside of the wall and doesn't get hit. And the wall is about 1m thick at its peak, about 2 at the base.
Last edited by Hiryukaen; Dec 9, 2022 @ 10:35am
knighttemplar1960 Dec 9, 2022 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by Vinegaroon:
To clarify I plan on having a stone wall around the earthen structure for the looks, I will have a moat, and build on an elivated area. The outside stone can be damaged, but I don’t want rhe club clipping through to more important things. This will be adjacent to an inlet I am carving out to be a dock.
If you want the structure to look good and not have to repair put the stone walls on the inside and the earthen wall on the outside of the moat (wet or dry). You can make the interior stone wall higher than the exterior earthen wall by building the interior earthen floor up to the maximum height on the inside and then raising the interior stone wall up above that.
Vinegaroon Dec 9, 2022 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Hiryukaen:
Originally posted by Vinegaroon:
To clarify I plan on having a stone wall around the earthen structure for the looks, I will have a moat, and build on an elivated area. The outside stone can be damaged, but I don’t want rhe club clipping through to more important things. This will be adjacent to an inlet I am carving out to be a dock.

Sounds like you're looking for the attack range of the troll with tree (currently longest attack reach afaik.) If so, it's about 6-8m I think. I ususally just throw up a long corewood beam for measurement and build the walls outside of that beams length.
(Base)|-CoreWood@6m-|{wall}

Anything within 4m will def get smashed, Depending on how thick the wall is, about 6m of buffer is what you need.

Thank you, this helps a lot
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