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Valheim

o0OreidanO0o Jun 5, 2022 @ 11:03pm
@devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter?
So i built this room, starting with a 50m iron pole in the center, on top of that i added 38 rows of flat roof, making a 152m square, surrounded by a 12m high stone wall (154m on the outside). I also added a stone floor, so you can substract 1m vertical space.

It doesn't count as a shelter. Right now i have to go up about 40m in the center to be considered sheltered and there's some small spots near the corners where i'm sheltered. As a matter of fact, if i go to one side of the room, the other side is not considered 'there' and the sunlight is shining through.

So what are the horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? Into how many compartments do i have to divide this room to be considered a shelter everywhere?

Concerning vertical, i want to avoid having to build stone floor in the air. Can i use roof tiles or wood floor as vertical separator? What's the maximum distance between roofs/floors?
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Alji Jun 5, 2022 @ 11:19pm 
Flat wood sections are not considered a roof for the purpose of sheltering (stone floor sections do count). You have to use the 45 degree or 26 degree thatch pieces for a roof. You might have to zigzag them up and down if covering that much space would create too high of a peak. Wouldn't look functional, but fortunately there are no drainage requirements in the game.
Brew Jun 6, 2022 @ 12:46am 
For a really tight zigzag, you could just use the V-shaped roof peak pieces. But yeah, not possible in this game to have a flat roof made of wood.
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 12:57am 
So wood floor is out of the question, i was expecting that. The question remains what's the maximum distance?
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Alji:
Wouldn't look functional, but fortunately there are no drainage requirements in the game.
I would put floor above and underneath the zigzag roof, so it'll look like a normal floor, just a meter thick.
Alji Jun 6, 2022 @ 8:32am 
That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Alji:
That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
just to be clear, i already have a fully funtional roof. it's 50m off the ground at the center and goes all the way down to 12m above ground at the edge. it's a 152m x 152m continuous roof, like a very flat 4 sided pyramid. i'm talking about adding more roofs under the current roof, so nothing will weather.
Last edited by o0OreidanO0o; Jun 6, 2022 @ 8:57am
Jitatha Jun 6, 2022 @ 12:03pm 
what mods and pics please
PakaNoHida Jun 6, 2022 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by o0OreidanO0o:
Originally posted by Alji:
That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
just to be clear, i already have a fully funtional roof. it's 50m off the ground at the center and goes all the way down to 12m above ground at the edge. it's a 152m x 152m continuous roof, like a very flat 4 sided pyramid. i'm talking about adding more roofs under the current roof, so nothing will weather.

Unless you use the tarred roofing material, it will always weather, however as I am visualizing it, you should have no problem with what you are trying to build, but screenshots would help everyone here.
Jitatha Jun 6, 2022 @ 12:48pm 
I have built a 32 meter tall tower, and do not experience a micro climate inside the building, but then again it is not as large, and is stone. However I do get snow on the top when the tower is in the meadows. This has a thatch roof about 8 m above it, and that functions as you would expect.

I have built a 22m tall stone tower, with a thatch roof and the thatch, though snow covered behaved perfectly normal in mountains.

I have built towers that span two biomes, and again, everything works exactly as expected.

So I can not offer any advice on limits, and as you say you have to go 40m up before the roof functions correctly, i.e. only 12m above your head or so. I have a 25m high atrium, and that works.

So pics please as it sound like you have multiple issues here.
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by Jitatha:
what mods and pics please
i'm not using any mods
Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
but screenshots would help everyone here.
how do i post screenshots in a topic? i published them on my steam account
Last edited by o0OreidanO0o; Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:16pm
Grailoch Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:22pm 
I checked out the screenshots on your profile.

CRAZY!

But it should all be shelter, I agree. Something is happening due to distances involved for sure.

Maybe start building internal floors up, see how close to roof you need to get to be "sheltered."
Last edited by Grailoch; Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:25pm
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Grailoch:
But it should all be shelter, I agree. Something is happening due to distances involved for sure.
in the picture from the inside you can see the sunlight shining through, starting at a certain distance. the room should be dark except for the brazier in the middle. and if i go there it IS dark... but then the sunlight is on the other side :D
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Grailoch:
Maybe start building internal floors up, see how close to roof you need to get to be "sheltered."
i think it has to do with the horizontal distance.
because right now i have to go about 10m below the roof on the corkscrew stairs to be sheltered, but i have a roof on my main base that's higher than that.
and i think that's because the roof gets too wide below that, so it no longer recognises the edges.
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
Unless you use the tarred roofing material, it will always weather, however as I am visualizing it, you should have no problem with what you are trying to build, but screenshots would help everyone here.
No it doesn't. I just checked the roof on my main base and after 300h of playtime, it doesn't have a single scratch, i literally can't repair it. Maybe you have some mod installed that makes the roof deteriorate, but mine doesn't.
o0OreidanO0o Jun 6, 2022 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by Jitatha:
what mods and pics please


Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
but screenshots would help everyone here.

the screenshots can be found in my profile. tell me if you want more from a sprecific angle.
(edit)
i uploaded more screenshots about the sheltered zones. and i have concluded that it has to do with the iron pillars.
i am sheltered in the positions of pictures named "shelterd_[#]":
between 1 and 2
between 3 and 4
form 5 and 6 all the way to the wall
between 7 and 8
from 9 upwards (the highlighted piece is 14m-16m below the peak, 34m-36m from the ground)
i also found two spots in 10 and 11, if i take a step in any direction from those spots, i'm no longer sheltered.

all the sheltered zones are either close to the roof, OR close to an iron pole.
Last edited by o0OreidanO0o; Jun 7, 2022 @ 12:22am
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