Can you ease the weight of the building?

[hakhak]

I'm having fun playing games.
It's nice to feel healing and adventure.

However, there are so many situations where "red" appears during construction that free construction is subject to too many restrictions.
Especially when the building is filled with pillars to avoid load, it feels very bad.

Even if I'm determined to try various architectures, if I care about the weight, I'm too tired to be interested in architecture anymore.

It may be a little strange because it is written using a translator.

[blankitosonic]

Use stone pillars or steel wood poles ( best of all but are expensive ) , at least core wood but not nornal wood pilars , them are very weak
If you want something 16m+ tall use mods

[jonnin]

Couple more ways...

You can raise a terrain column and pull iron pole or similar support off it.

You can attach a support pole to a tree, it is either ground or ground + 1, I forget. This has some risk as trees near your home are vulnerable to raids and losing support = crash and burn, so if you do it, protect the tree.

wood can go on top of red stone, at least 2 more floors.

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putting everything together, I sort of have a 'design' that I use frequently.
that is to dig out or build up the first 'level' of the home only using terrain raise/lower. The top of this should be perfectly flat and all the same height, making a ring or rectangle empty space that forms a 'room'. Then come across the top of this with your wood iron poles and put down a stone floor. you can put in walls and floors and such below or not, but that is cosmetic only, it won't support much. If your build is very large, a central raised column of terrain should be placed as well to offer support up top later.
then build your castle on top of this, with stairs down. This gets you an entire level for 'free', possibly 2 levels if you don't mind low ceilings. Then you can put AT LEAST 2 floors of stone and 2 floors of wood above that. The total is at least 5 levels, 7 or 8 is probably doable with extreme management of the support system and that mentioned middle terrain column. I like higher ceilings more than additional levels, though.

[Zep Tepi]

If you start with a piece of raised ground and then plant a pine tree on top of it, you can get very tall. Anything attached to ground or to a tree counts as the strongest supported level. As others have said, core wood, stone and iron wood are stronger than plain wood.

If you really want to have fun, get a mod that removes the building restrictions.

[Wizard of Woz]

I actually really like the fact they tried to introduce some physics into the building. Still wish they would make beams worthwhile, like in real life.

[hallaloth]

Originally posted by wizard_of_woz:

I actually really like the fact they tried to introduce some physics into the building. Still wish they would make beams worthwhile, like in real life.

I have to agree. While it is very frustrating during the construction phase to argue with the physics and going through multiple rebuilds/restructures to get what you want. . .the end result regardless of build size is always satisfying.

[jonnin]

Statics (the branch of physics for non moving things) and loading are much more complicated than they look. You have the strengths of the materials, the angles, the shape of the object, and so many things.
Here, give this a read:
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/77977841.pdf

[PakaNoHida]

These 2 videos may help you.

https://youtu.be/9qzVFKx9FX8

https://youtu.be/yr-i0LyDsFo

[domic]

The "Forever Build" mod over at ... are we allowed to mention nexusmods ? ... would do the trick. I haven't used it, personally, but it's on the "popular" list, so it should be ok.

[hakhak]

Originally posted by PakaNoHida:

These 2 videos may help you.

https://youtu.be/9qzVFKx9FX8

https://youtu.be/yr-i0LyDsFo

Thank you.
I'll refer to the video.

[hakhak]

Originally posted by jonnin:

Couple more ways...

You can raise a terrain column and pull iron pole or similar support off it.

You can attach a support pole to a tree, it is either ground or ground + 1, I forget. This has some risk as trees near your home are vulnerable to raids and losing support = crash and burn, so if you do it, protect the tree.

wood can go on top of red stone, at least 2 more floors.

-------------
putting everything together, I sort of have a 'design' that I use frequently.
that is to dig out or build up the first 'level' of the home only using terrain raise/lower. The top of this should be perfectly flat and all the same height, making a ring or rectangle empty space that forms a 'room'. Then come across the top of this with your wood iron poles and put down a stone floor. you can put in walls and floors and such below or not, but that is cosmetic only, it won't support much. If your build is very large, a central raised column of terrain should be placed as well to offer support up top later.
then build your castle on top of this, with stairs down. This gets you an entire level for 'free', possibly 2 levels if you don't mind low ceilings. Then you can put AT LEAST 2 floors of stone and 2 floors of wood above that. The total is at least 5 levels, 7 or 8 is probably doable with extreme management of the support system and that mentioned middle terrain column. I like higher ceilings more than additional levels, though.

Thanks for the tips.
I have to read it through a translator, but it must have been a little unreasonable to build two or more floors with only wood.

[hakhak]

Originally posted by domic:

The "Forever Build" mod over at ... are we allowed to mention nexusmods ? ... would do the trick. I haven't used it, personally, but it's on the "popular" list, so it should be ok.

That's the mode. It's interesting.
But I don't usually use the mode when I play games.Thanks for reminding me, though.

[Subsonic]

If you're in to modding you can pretty much change the whole game to be something else entirely, and take out all the balance that's part of the design. Go that route if you want to take the edge off the game.

However, if you don't want to use mods or cheats, especially during Early Access where updates come frequently and systems can experience major changes (and mods can totally blow up), then watch some Youtube videos about building with wood (regular and corewood) as well as stone and ironbound posts. You can make some impressive structures with the materials at hand without having to hack your way into it via mods or cheats.

All depends on how you want to play the game. You'll hear mods being pushed forth all the time--and if that's your thing, go for it. But if you'd rather play the game as intended without the cheats/mods, then you have a lot of options for making some pretty creative builds.

[Lucidess]

Originally posted by wizard_of_woz:

I actually really like the fact they tried to introduce some physics into the building. Still wish they would make beams worthwhile, like in real life.

Iron Poles not good enough for ya? Geez. I do like how they set it up because then no house can be too big, I can imagine this would be a problem for multiplayer when one masochistic player wants to make a massive mansion with tons of rooms but nothing in the rooms, just a super-massive wooden box house. It would leave quite the scar on the world.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Lucidess:

Originally posted by wizard_of_woz:

I actually really like the fact they tried to introduce some physics into the building. Still wish they would make beams worthwhile, like in real life.

Iron Poles not good enough for ya? Geez. I do like how they set it up because then no house can be too big, I can imagine this would be a problem for multiplayer when one masochistic player wants to make a massive mansion with tons of rooms but nothing in the rooms, just a super-massive wooden box house. It would leave quite the scar on the world.

I am not looking to build huge buildings. But when I can't build a two story house out of regular wooden posts and beams there is something wrong, if they are going for any type of realism.

[PakaNoHida]

Originally posted by hakhak:

Originally posted by PakaNoHida:

These 2 videos may help you.

https://youtu.be/9qzVFKx9FX8

https://youtu.be/yr-i0LyDsFo

Thank you.
I'll refer to the video.

Your welcome, and as a reminder, the top stickied post helps with all things building now.