Ship / Karve disappeared

[squashplayer1]

I am currently on a very remote Swamp island. I parked the ship there yesterday. Today I went to the spot but the ship was gone and also the ship materials were not there.

So I spawned a new ship using the console because this has happened already several times to me.

So what could be the reason for my Karve to disappear?

Thx

[Anthelm]

Originally posted by squashplayer1:

I have searched everything. The places where I landed the boat there were no materials left.
I suspect that the boat was pulled to the sea by the wind maybe.

You probably just lost it and you aren't looking at the good place.
Boats are static as long no one is standing on (When you jump in water, your ship instantly stop)

[ec928]

Until you're in your base, always smash your boat as you land (just swing at the main mast a few times) and carry the parts on you.

[squashplayer1]

If I destroy my boat I get only 26 bronze nails from it sometimes. So I cannot rebuild it.

[warrenchmobile]

Originally posted by squashplayer1:

If I destroy my boat I get only 26 bronze nails from it sometimes. So I cannot rebuild it.

If one's boat is not in pristine condition when one breaks it up one may not get all the materials used to build it.

Land. Build a workbench. Repair the boat. Break up the boat, Build a chest. Store the boat materials in the chest. Dismantle the workbench.

[vilem.krejci]

Originally posted by warrenchmobile:

Originally posted by squashplayer1:

If I destroy my boat I get only 26 bronze nails from it sometimes. So I cannot rebuild it.

If one's boat is not in pristine condition when one breaks it up one may not get all the materials used to build it.

Land. Build a workbench. Repair the boat. Break up the boat, Build a chest. Store the boat materials in the chest. Dismantle the workbench.

... and mark this place on the map ;-)

[Anthelm]

Originally posted by warrenchmobile:

If one's boat is not in pristine condition when one breaks it up one may not get all the materials used to build it.

Really?...

• You don't need to disassemble your ship, just land and put a mark on your map.
• You don't need to repair AND damage it to get all materials back
(How would this even work? Just think about it. You get 100% of materials back if ship went from 100% hp to 0% in less that X seconds? That's retarded)
0hp = ship destroyed, that's it. And you get nails back.


I think the only issue here is lake of attention...

Another theory:
You had 70 nails and expect to loot 40.
Max stack being 100, you have now 100 + 10
And thought you'v got only 10 nails back when you saw that little stack of 10.

Occam's razor, lake of attention. There is no bug.

[warrenchmobile]

Originally posted by Anthelm:

Originally posted by warrenchmobile:

If one's boat is not in pristine condition when one breaks it up one may not get all the materials used to build it.

Really?...

• You don't need to disassemble your ship, just land and put a mark on your map.
• You don't need to repair AND damage it to get all materials back
(How would this even work? Just think about it. You get 100% of materials back if ship went from 100% hp to 0% in less that X seconds? That's retarded)
0hp = ship destroyed, that's it. And you get nails back.


I think the only issue here is lake of attention...

Another theory:
You had 70 nails and expect to loot 40.
Max stack being 100, you have now 100 + 10
And thought you'v got only 10 nails back when you saw that little stack of 10.

Occam's razor, lake of attention. There is no bug.

1. One does not need to disassemble one's ship. One can go about one's business elsewhere and hope one's ship is not destroyed by a storm or a wandering mob when one returns.

2. One does not need to repair AND damage it to get all materials back. If the ship is not damaged in the first place, one will get all materials back. It the ship has suffered sufficient damage, however, one will not get all materials back. This is a lesson I learned from paying attention while playing the game.

The abandoned villages and structures one finds in Valheim may be destroyed or dismantled to get the materials from which they were originally constructed. Anyone who has done this knows a workbench is needed to dismantle the structure. Anyone who has done this also knows that if they do not repair a damaged structure before they dismantle it chances are they will not get back all the materials.

I once set out on a long voyage in my karve. As I neared the end, my karve was attacked by a serpent. It landed several hits on the karve before I beached the ship and drove the serpent off. Fearing it might return while I was away and finish off my ship, I destroyed the ship to get the materials and take them with me. I did not repair the karve first. I did not get back all the fine wood, deer hides, and brass nails I used to build the karve. I did not have any of these items in my personal inventory before I started to destroy the karve. I did not, through lack of attention, mistake the actual quantities of these items I got from destroying the karve. That is why I repair my ships before I destroy them to store the materials.

One could "Just think about it" and decide "That's retarded" but one will still not get all one's materials back. I would guess because Valheim's designers thought about it and decided that getting a whole karve's worth of material from dismantling a half-destroyed karve would be retarded.

Occam's Razor can be a useful tool. Don't use it to cut your own throat.

[Mharr]

Originally posted by Nascarman:

How do cheats make the game viable? I can see them being used to fix glitches like this one but if you can’t beat the game without cheating I think it’s a you issue and not the game.

Precisely because they're needed to fix glitches like that one. Game's in early access and still full of bugs. It could use a better save system with redundant backups too.

[Anthelm]

Just test it again then eat the razor. You are wrong.

[Anthelm]

Oh and you think ships passively takes damages during storms, also? Are you sure you can confirm this?

Ok let me do this one for you, i'll show you:

Boats take 10 damage when hitting the water with a high vertical speed. The speed limit is higher for bigger ships (from 3 m/s to 5 m/s). This can happen during rough weather with high waves but can only trigger every 2 seconds. Water damage is ignored when there are no players in the ship.

You really talk ♥♥♥♥ mate. Check the rest, you wrong too.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by squashplayer1:

So what could be the reason for my Karve to disappear?

1. Leeches destroyed it, why you never park ships near swamps.
2. If there is no nearby workbench dropped items disappear after about 30 minutes. If there is a nearby workbench then items remain as long as the workshop is not destroyed,

It is not a glitch, it is game mechanics working as intended. Unfortunately people would rather blame the developers than take responsibility for being irresponsible in where they left their ship.

[vilem.krejci]

Leeches are very successful in destroying ships, they will easily sink you far from the mainland ...

[Anthelm]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Unfortunately people would rather blame the developers than take responsibility for being irresponsible in where they left their ship.

I think that's a good conclusion indeed.

[Nascarman]

Originally posted by captainamaziiing:

Originally posted by Nascarman:

How do cheats make the game viable? I can see them being used to fix glitches like this one but if you can’t beat the game without cheating I think it’s a you issue and not the game.

It's cuz I have this thing outside the game called 'a life'. I just don't have time for the intentional tedium the game uses as a substitute for content. Yeah. I port my ores to get around tedious ore portaging. And I use god and fly mode to get around the tedious death mechanic. And I spawn in stone for my big final base build cuz I don't have time to play Viking themed chain gang simulator, nor interest in playing it. And I use a plethora of mods like 'wind at my back', because I also don't have time to play Viking themed rowing simulator either.

What matters is I enjoy the game I paid for. It doesn't make you virtuous to obey the every whim of a game designer with control issues.

There’s a difference between enjoying the game by cheating and telling everyone else to cheat because the game isn’t viable to play without doing it. I frankly do not care if you cheat in your world (although I’d suggest against it), however what I do object is claiming the game can’t be enjoyed without cheating and you must cheat to find enjoyment which is demonstrably false and only tricks people into ruining their own experience by prematurely cheating in their own game

[Mharr]

Originally posted by Anthelm:

You really talk ♥♥♥♥ mate. Check the rest, you wrong too.

There's intended game mechanics and then there's what actually happens to people in practice. I often see my ships take random 10hp strikes sailing on glass calm open water. Valheim is nothing like bug-free atm, look at the frequency of people reporting world state rollbacks and lost saves.