skill loss on death too high. whats the point?

[Akita]

I had my bows to 30. Now it 18. Had sword in low 30s. now its low 20s. whats the point of working on skills when you will loose them. You can die from jumping off a rock. dont fall off the stairs. way too easy to die, and the loss is staggering. I dont see any point on working on skills anymore. Loosing interest fast.

[The Grass]

引用自 Ellsworth：

I haven't had a skill drain occur upon character death, and I've died A LOT. Every time I've died, a skull and crossbones appears by the mini map with "No skill drain" above it. I haven't defeated the second boss yet.

Is skill drain something that doesn't occur until a particular point in the game? If so, at what point does one begin to lose skill points upon death?

Thanks!

as far as i can tell, if you die more than once in a short period of time you get a "no skill drain" buff meaning you wont keep dropping skills for repetitive dying.

also, skill drain is a percentage based drain, so the higher your skills the more noticeable skill drain.

[Ellsworth]

Thanks for the reply, Formless. Every time I have died, even if it's the first of many, I get the "No skill drain". I don't think I've lost any skill points ever.

[ChromePlate]

Ooof, i did not know it was quite that hard.
I have been a bit afraid to look myself.
And as i like to use multiple weapons and even bare fists, it is further penalising i guess.
Sure if one use one thing only, and allot, perhaps one do not see much difference as you always keep that skill pretty high.

1 or at max 2 levels i would think perhaps be fair, it stings, but it do not make you lose days of work.

[DDC]

引用自 Ellsworth：

Thanks for the reply, Formless. Every time I have died, even if it's the first of many, I get the "No skill drain". I don't think I've lost any skill points ever.

You lose points when you die. 10% of your total from each skill. Once you die, you get the 'no skill drain' message for a while, which prevents any additional skill point loss until it wears off.

This isn't guessing, or "I think so". This is how it works.

[The Shattered Grin]

If you don't like the way the devs designed the game they provided you with a cheat console. Use it to raise your skills. Don't expect them to cater to you when they gave you a way to mitigate an issue you don't care for.

[Death2Gnomes]

引用自 FadeXF：

Fun fact 1: you can beat this entire game - all bosses - with 1 archery skill

Fun fact 2: you can use console command to give yourself 100 placebo... er... I mean 100 skill points if that's what you need to see to feel amazing

Skill points right now are entirely placebo. They don't really do too much other than, apparently, piss people off.

You should see what a REAL death penalty feels like and play some Everyquest or Path Of Exile. Yikers. If placebo ghost points HERE piss you off... jesus... imagine losing 10% XP past level 95 in POE! (3 hours of your life POOF GONE)

just fro you FadeXF!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW_yVGPd0ns

[Rhaane]

Just treat skills as a BONUS and not a requirement. Think of it more of a boon to not dying much or at all since its not required to have them yet it is helpful in a small way as they get higher. At no point should you stop whatever you are doing and purposely raise skills, just play and if you dont die theyll get better and better.. a sheer bonus.

Furthermore, if anyone is risking life and doing dangerous stuff without good food, rested buff and as you move mid to higher game,, meads. Then you deserve to die, those are FAR more helpful than any skill points.

[FadeXF]

引用自 Death2Gnomes：

引用自 FadeXF：

Fun fact 1: you can beat this entire game - all bosses - with 1 archery skill

Fun fact 2: you can use console command to give yourself 100 placebo... er... I mean 100 skill points if that's what you need to see to feel amazing

Skill points right now are entirely placebo. They don't really do too much other than, apparently, piss people off.

You should see what a REAL death penalty feels like and play some Everyquest or Path Of Exile. Yikers. If placebo ghost points HERE piss you off... jesus... imagine losing 10% XP past level 95 in POE! (3 hours of your life POOF GONE)

just fro you FadeXF!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW_yVGPd0ns

OMG bahahahahahahahahahahaha

[end_game_13]

引用自 KingBee：

point is not to die too often

How do you die so much, are you like face checking everything with no armor?

[Mononymouse]

I had 48 wood cutting, then i died... i now had 45 wood cutting, then for 8 minutes, i repeatedly died, over and over, as fast as i could, and i still had 45 wood cutting... then i died again... 41 wood cutting... then for 8 minutes, i died as fast as i could, and i was still at 41 wood cutting...

Not sure what the issue with ya'll is...

Just don't die, or use the corpse run mechanic properly.

引用自 The Shattered Grin：

If you don't like the way the devs designed the game they provided you with a cheat console. Use it to raise your skills. Don't expect them to cater to you when they gave you a way to mitigate an issue you don't care for.

Well said.

[The Shattered Grin]

引用自 Golden Snowflake ❄：

I had 48 wood cutting, then i died... i now had 45 wood cutting, then for 8 minutes, i repeatedly died, over and over, as fast as i could, and i still had 45 wood cutting... then i died again... 41 wood cutting... then for 8 minutes, i died as fast as i could, and i was still at 41 wood cutting...

Not sure what the issue with ya'll is...

Just don't die, or use the corpse run mechanic properly.

This

[Dive Pymander]

Skill drain gives an incentive not to die. There's a few cheats you could use on suicide runs. I feel like death make the exploration aspect thrilling sometimes to the point of unintentional horror. I hope they don't get rid of Skill Drain.

PRO-TIP: If you don't like Skill Drain there are console commands you can use to buff your skills. In fact, there are all sorts of cheats like flying, metal spawning and God Mode. I personally feel like they completely spoil the game.

[Vault Traveler]

引用自 KingBee：

point is not to die too often

that stings!

[SolusEmsu]

After having died a couple times with skill ranks ranging from 1-30 or so, I have noticed the 'No Skill Loss' temporary buff after a corpse run.. but I honestly did not even notice if any skills dropped. If they have an effect, the first 30 or so ranks being gained/lost were not even noticeable for me. I never felt like I was weakened after a death, once I ate to get my health back up and retrieved my gear.

[I-NOCHT]

引用自 FadeXF：

Fun fact 1: you can beat this entire game - all bosses - with 1 archery skill

Fun fact 2: you can use console command to give yourself 100 placebo... er... I mean 100 skill points if that's what you need to see to feel amazing

Skill points right now are entirely placebo. They don't really do too much other than, apparently, piss people off.

You should see what a REAL death penalty feels like and play some Everyquest or Path Of Exile. Yikers. If placebo ghost points HERE piss you off... jesus... imagine losing 10% XP past level 95 in POE! (3 hours of your life POOF GONE)

So much truth here. I absolutely dread dying in PoE because getting that lost xp back will literally take me hours if not a whole play session. In Valheim I can sit by my home and punch a tree until my skills are back.