Padded Armor?

[Silvarren]

Really? Why would padded armor be considered the best armor? I'm aware that historically, it was actually decent protection, but it seems odd that it would be considered better than iron, or the in-game silver. (Silver not being a great metal to make weapons out of irl.) I would expect something like "dragon scale" to be better.

The game isn't finished, of course. Will we see new armor / materials to make armor from?

Fwiw, I'm really enjoying the game, it's just something I found odd after consideration.

[grinsekeatzchen]

We fight against green, nuclear blobs and ... are dead anyway. Why these constant RL comparisons?

[blankitosonic]

I read that some types of padded armor resist very well arrows and cuts ( with a chainmail in ) because are a bunch of compressed layers of good cloth , and this 2 armor types was most used for people of the north , padded is more historical efficient than fantasy/mith efficient

[warrenchmobile]

The conquistadors were impressed with the quilted armor worn by Aztec warriors. All three types of physical damage listed in the game, pierce, slash, and blunt, have a very large component: the amount of force applied. Leather or metal may serve to deflect blows and resist penetration better than skin but that is not enough. Armor must also counter the force of the blow. Any armor used, including modern bullet-proof vests, have some padding to mitigate the force of the blow, whatever its source.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Silvarren:

Really? Why would padded armor be considered the best armor? I'm aware that historically, it was actually decent protection, but it seems odd that it would be considered better than iron, or the in-game silver. (Silver not being a great metal to make weapons out of irl.) I would expect something like "dragon scale" to be better.

The game isn't finished, of course. Will we see new armor / materials to make armor from?

Fwiw, I'm really enjoying the game, it's just something I found odd after consideration.

4 more bioms -> 4 more armor sets. (I assume), might be even more, like light armor alternatives to troll skin. Assuming there will be silk in the next biome.

Considering how weak the dragons are in this game, not sure it would be good candidate for armor material.

[blankitosonic]

Well i hope flametal will be used for armor , not like blackmetal , that was a little dissapointed

[Ryzilynt]

Originally posted by Crasharr:

I saw this guy who was like a curator for the British Armory museum or something and he said never in history has there been leather armor. Leather just isnt feasable as armor and all the shows showing vikings etc running around in leather is just for looks. It never happened IRL.

Now i dont know if true but it does make sense. I mean sure a leather armor might prevent from nicks and scars running through a bramble bush but i doubt any serious type of weapon would give a hoot about some leather. Not to mention to maintain a full leather suit etc...

So yeah, padded might be weird, but leather armor isnt even a thing. Go figure.

Pretty sure this is incorrect. Humans have been around a lot longer than refined metal. I believe the gentleman may have been speaking out of school.

[HuckleberryHound]

Originally posted by Crasharr:

I saw this guy who was like a curator for the British Armory museum or something and he said never in history has there been leather armor. Leather just isnt feasable as armor and all the shows showing vikings etc running around in leather is just for looks. It never happened IRL.

Now i dont know if true but it does make sense. I mean sure a leather armor might prevent from nicks and scars running through a bramble bush but i doubt any serious type of weapon would give a hoot about some leather. Not to mention to maintain a full leather suit etc...

So yeah, padded might be weird, but leather armor isnt even a thing. Go figure.

Actually, leather armor was a thing. It was hardened with beeswax, and worked quite well, so long as the weather wasn't too warm.
Leather was far cheaper and easier to come by than metal. Things like swords and mail shirts were rare.

[PakaNoHida]

Originally posted by Silvarren:

Really? Why would padded armor be considered the best armor? I'm aware that historically, it was actually decent protection, but it seems odd that it would be considered better than iron, or the in-game silver. (Silver not being a great metal to make weapons out of irl.) I would expect something like "dragon scale" to be better.

The game isn't finished, of course. Will we see new armor / materials to make armor from?

Fwiw, I'm really enjoying the game, it's just something I found odd after consideration.

Welcome to a F A N T A S Y game.

[PakaNoHida]

Originally posted by Crasharr:

I saw this guy who was like a curator for the British Armory museum or something and he said never in history has there been leather armor. Leather just isnt feasable as armor and all the shows showing vikings etc running around in leather is just for looks. It never happened IRL.

He was an idiot and there is plenty of leather armor world wide, heck I even know how to make leather armor from research and playing around irl.

[Ryzilynt]

Just did a little research on what Viking wore. Since they were around for more than 3 centuries covering a wide variety of environments there is no one answer. Basically they wore the best they could get their hands on that fit the situation. Quick raid was typically lite armor, established presence heavier. They coveted foreign armors and armor of some more established enemies. They would buy/barter/or steal to get it. And they would wear it if it was situationally appropriate.

[ec928]

But the curator was probably arguing semantics and details.

Yes you can claim that soft leather armour did not exist because it was rather useless as armour and you would have a valid point. But hard leather armour or boiled armour certainly existed and was used as light protection for military purposes.

But if you ignore details and look at the bigger picture, the key word in both is "leather". That's what happens when people focus on the details and try to be too smart.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by blankitosonic:

Well i hope flametal will be used for armor , not like blackmetal , that was a little dissapointed

It is EA, looks like they cut a bunch of things out for now.
Might be armor from it as well, later on.

[Ryzilynt]

Originally posted by Crasharr:

I was kinda wrong what his credentials were but here's the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwWlamONqs&t=451s

Still pretty interesting stuff imho

also

"..and he said never in history has there been leather armor"

"...but leather armor isnt even a thing. Go figure"

[jonnin]

this isnt padded armor in the sense of tying pillows all over your body. Its some sort of metal over tough reinforced leather. The name may not have translated well, or be exactly what the authors meant, but look at the graphic for it. I am sure we will get more armors later. And they may want to rename this one.

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I saw this guy who was like a curator for the British Armory museum or something and he said never in history has there been leather armor. Leather just isnt feasable as armor and all the shows showing vikings etc running around in leather is just for looks. It never happened IRL.

this is not totally accurate. There were plenty of leather armors: one technique is to make heavily waxed or some coating layers of it that are exceedingly tough, and some examples have metal and wood. It won't stop an arrow from a stout bow, but it will keep a less than razor sharp sword from cutting into you as easily.
From the wiki page:
Cuir bouilli was used for cheap and light armour, although it was much less effective than plate armour, which was extremely expensive and too heavy for much to be worn by infantry (as opposed to knights fighting on foot). However, cuir bouilli could be reinforced against slashing blows by the addition of metal bands or strips, especially in helmets. Modern experiments on simple cuir bouilli have shown that it can reduce the depth of an arrow wound considerably, especially if coated with a crushed mineral facing mixed with glue, as one medieval Arab author recommended.[5]

[WhamyKaBlamy]

I assumed the padded armour was really quilted armour. I'm no historian but I believe it was pretty good at absorbing force. Like the gambeson and chainmail combo.