Canceling attacks

[Dis Lexic]

Does anyone else think you should be able to cancel your attack animation by raising your shield? I've lost count of the number of times I've nearly been killed or actually died as a result of getting hit mid attack animation. True, this could be because I'm bad at the combat, but I still think you should be able to raise your shield mid attack.

[Stellar Remnant]

Originally posted by Tim the Enchanter:

and just learn to deal with the fact that if you get attacked by 3 wolves of which one has 2 stars you are just dead, no skill or anything can definitiv save you.

Or get a good bow and use a bit of stealth and sneaky arrow the nasties. Stealth archer is surprisingly viable in Valheim.

Hell, I soloed Bonemass with a lvl3 iron bow and about 100 frost arrows without taking a single hit. Tasty mead also helped a ton.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Originally posted by gerald2:

Originally posted by Tim the Enchanter:

dude what? no the way it is in this game is wrong, in real life you will try to swing in a way so that your shild still is kind of infront of your body, shields where no counter weight to your swing that has to be behind your back to stop you from falling, it is literally there to even protect you while you are striking

i practice HEMA a lot and if your shield dosn´t protect you while you are attacking you just as well could fight without a shield...

just watch some HEMA videos medival combat wasn´t like movies made us belive.

have you fought in real?
Im thru 14 years trainer in medieval reenaction group ,believe me its not possible at least with big round shield ,maybe with bronze buckler ,but this way they would need add separate system for just one type of shield.
Viking swords and axes was made for chopping not for stabbing,technic u writing about could work with spear only with early medieval sword or axe or mace you would be no able to make full swing while u hav eshield at defensive stance....

don´t say it isn´t possible only because oyu can´t do it, i am only 5 years in so i didn´t had to fight to the death yet but i know for a fact that a big round shield works just as well for what i said as a buckler would...

you need to protect one side of your body while attacking from the other side, thats the main offensive use of a shield, it allows you to use your weapon 100% offensive while still being save yourself.

just like they do in this video, if at any point your shield is behind youtr body you are taking risks, not saying it has never been done but it isn´t the right and save way which is the main reason to have a shield, to be save...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc&ab_channel=pommelstrike

and olny because these swords would be better at cutting dosn´t mean you would never thrust at your opponents weak spots like the face ot the arm pits, which is why the special attack animation in the game for swords is a stab...

[Macdallan]

I don't think we need to add this option to the game. Combat is easy enough now, letting you interrupt an attack would make it too easy. Blocking and parrying works really well if you have gear that's strong enough for the enemies you're fighting. It's also quite easy to kite and avoid attacks. There has to be some point in a fight where you can be hit and if that's when you're mid animation then I see no reason to remove that. If you don't want to be locked into animations for very long then just use faster weapons.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

I don't think we need to add this option to the game. Combat is easy enough now, letting you interrupt an attack would make it too easy. Blocking and parrying works really well if you have gear that's strong enough for the enemies you're fighting.

still getting 2 shot by wolves with 2 stars even tho i am rocking full upgraded silver gear and having 150 hp.
i think like 4-6 attacks on my block and i am complete out of stamina...
maybe i should have trained blocking more but up to this point EVERY enemy dies from 2 hits so there was never a need for blocking.

[Tim the Enchanter]

i think the main problem is that the game is way more easy at the beginning, i pretty much never had to block during my times in meadows, black forest and swamps because the enemies there are so slow and have such a low reach that just walking out of attack range after attacking once wasn´t a problem at all, but the wolves and golems are a complete new thing and you don´t realy get any training to face them so you have to learn a new way of fighting whe you are already dozens of hours in.

[DredSilent]

Improved Combat Animations DLC 2022.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Tim the Enchanter:

don´t say it isn´t possible only because oyu can´t do it, i am only 5 years in so i didn´t had to fight to the death yet but i know for a fact that a big round shield works just as well for what i said as a buckler would...

you need to protect one side of your body while attacking from the other side, thats the main offensive use of a shield, it allows you to use your weapon 100% offensive while still being save yourself.

just like they do in this video, if at any point your shield is behind youtr body you are taking risks, not saying it has never been done but it isn´t the right and save way which is the main reason to have a shield, to be save...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc&ab_channel=pommelstrike

and olny because these swords would be better at cutting dosn´t mean you would never thrust at your opponents weak spots like the face ot the arm pits, which is why the special attack animation in the game for swords is a stab...

I've done a variety of weapon based martial arts training with full contact using everything from a tiny punch buckler to a huge Roman scutum including fairly large viking style round shields. I agree that it's absolutely possible to keep a shield up and attack at the same time regardless of size and it's rather essential most of the time.

Movies and games show people flailing around like idiots with their shield completely out of position all the time. That's *NOT* how you fight someone in melee combat. Are there situations where you might do that? Sure, but not constantly. Shields can be used offensively as well, but timing is everything and if you aren't keeping it between you and the threat you may as well not use it at all, as mentioned above.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

No, I don't think so. I feel like players have got used to mindlessly spamming attacks and thinking its the way to play that works every time in every game.

You should never attack unless you know what you're doing. Single click attacks at deliberate moments does not prevent you from making combos.

Exactly this, simple and well put.

[GrandTickler]

no i think that would make the combat too easy since u already have a parry window of like 60 frames. its good to be punished for badly timed swings