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Dahanamo Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:53am
Cheating
It may sound a bit sad and naive, but why is cheating allowed in this game??

I was really enjoying playing the game until I realised there was a cheat command. I felt like a huge part of the enjoyment of the game came from the satisfaction of putting in the time, playing properly, discovering and building things and progressing as the game was meant to be played? It's completely stripped of all of that knowing that people can just cheat and skip their way ahead to getting everything really quickly. It's not as impressive otherwise, and takes away the sense of achievement and satisfaction you get from grinding to get the advanced stuff.. regardless of single player or online.
Originally posted by Don't kill me:
It is a strange topic, one that I would like to chime in with.

Put simply, if I see someone that has built a HUGE epic base, has a company of 10 warriors all clad in the greatest armour and strongest weapons, then I feel awed and inspired to progress knowing what I can achieve through effort of my own

If I then learn that it took just a few commands on a cheat console then it completely diminishes everything I feel. It's like viewing a beautiful drawing then learning it is a colour-by-numbers.

I personally feel great reward and accomplishment knowing that I have achieved greatness that others are also able to achieve through effort. Knowing others didn't use the same effort I am using can spoil the accomplishment. This is how some people "game". Others "game" without a single care what the next person is doing. I, unfortunately, am unable to do this.

Knowing the cheat is there, lurking behind a button and a few lines of text makes me feel foolish; it feels like I am being openly mocked for my effort and perseverance.

That said, I wouldn't want the "cheats" removed, because this is early access, people also need to test things.
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sayuur Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:56am 
just dont use them okay
Grandaddypurple Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:56am 
I agree but honestly who cares? If people spoil their own games, just enjoy your experience.
In general, Console command can be handy sometimes mostly in EA when the game bugs and softlocks you.
The only cheese I did was pulling a Micheal Phelps and increased my swimming ability when I died swimming and a log prevented me from reaching the shore... it was out of rage and I kind of regret it now, but I dont know how to lower skill manually and it really has no effect as you never go out swimming
Last edited by Grandaddypurple; Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:57am
Wariat117 Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:58am 
game is made on unity engine
this engine is very moddable
that's why mods are allowed
Rhaane Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:58am 
Just because you CAN doesnt mean you should or have to. Why are you worried about what someone else is doing? Being it is not a MMO and you are not always in-game with other players.. dont worry about it. Most every single game of this type, or any single player for that matter can be cheated and edited all over the place. Maybe you didnt know that either and now does that mean every game you played and liked is tained by what someone ELSE did?

This format of a game is expected to have freeform tools for people who want to play with the game rather than play the game. Then you got mods which do all sorts of things to games.

Close yourself in a box and play the game YOUR way, screw everyone else.
Duck Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:59am 
Its like creative mode in minecraft, for those who want to build massive structures or towns and such without going out and farming for countless hours. It is completely optional.
Dahanamo Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by Vegetablez:
just dont use them okay

That's not the issue - I don't want to nor will I use them. Would you say the same thing to someone who complained about cheating in say CS:GO?

Originally posted by Grandaddypurple:
I agree but honestly who cares? If people spoil their own games, just enjoy your experience.

Yeah I know what you mean, but part of the enjoyment for me comes from achieving and getting advanced stuff, etc. by playing properly. I know it's just a game, but it's the equivalent of someone who worked hard and passed with amazing grades on a bunch of exams to only have it belittled by someone getting the same results after cheating. It's not precisely the same, but it's damn irritating.


Mystyrys Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:06am 
It is for people who love the creative and experimental building part of a game, and those who make videos and tutorials for it. It's a shortcut and a tool.
Do not use it if you are in it for the game play and progression part of the game. :steamhappy:
Moobert Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Dahanamo:
Originally posted by Vegetablez:
just dont use them okay

That's not the issue - I don't want to nor will I use them. Would you say the same thing to someone who complained about cheating in say CS:GO?

Originally posted by Grandaddypurple:
I agree but honestly who cares? If people spoil their own games, just enjoy your experience.

Yeah I know what you mean, but part of the enjoyment for me comes from achieving and getting advanced stuff, etc. by playing properly. I know it's just a game, but it's the equivalent of someone who worked hard and passed with amazing grades on a bunch of exams to only have it belittled by someone getting the same results after cheating. It's not precisely the same, but it's damn irritating.

LOL comparing this to CSGO?!

Gamer Mickey Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Dahanamo:
Originally posted by Vegetablez:
just dont use them okay

That's not the issue - I don't want to nor will I use them. Would you say the same thing to someone who complained about cheating in say CS:GO?

Originally posted by Grandaddypurple:
I agree but honestly who cares? If people spoil their own games, just enjoy your experience.

Yeah I know what you mean, but part of the enjoyment for me comes from achieving and getting advanced stuff, etc. by playing properly. I know it's just a game, but it's the equivalent of someone who worked hard and passed with amazing grades on a bunch of exams to only have it belittled by someone getting the same results after cheating. It's not precisely the same, but it's damn irritating.

My understanding is that the "cheat" commands as you call them, are there for the people that need them. Namely server admins who might be replacing people's lost gear after a server migration to a different provider, as well as the devs when they need to spawn in something to test it rather than trekking across the map to do it when they don't have time due to an extremely busy schedule.

If you don't want to use them, don't press F5 and enable them. It's literally that simple.
Last edited by Gamer Mickey; Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:09am
Dahanamo Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:11am 
Originally posted by Gamer Mickey:
Originally posted by Dahanamo:

That's not the issue - I don't want to nor will I use them. Would you say the same thing to someone who complained about cheating in say CS:GO?



Yeah I know what you mean, but part of the enjoyment for me comes from achieving and getting advanced stuff, etc. by playing properly. I know it's just a game, but it's the equivalent of someone who worked hard and passed with amazing grades on a bunch of exams to only have it belittled by someone getting the same results after cheating. It's not precisely the same, but it's damn irritating.

My understanding is that the "cheat" commands as you call them, are there for the people that need them. Namely server admins who might be replacing people's lost gear after a server migration to a different provider, as well as the devs when they need to spawn in something to test it rather than trekking across the map to do it when they don't have time due to an extremely busy schedule.

If you don't want to use them, don't press F5 and enable them. It's literally that simple.

You're completely missing my point.
#GLOCK-23 Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Dahanamo:
It may sound a bit sad and naive, but why is cheating allowed in this game??

I was really enjoying playing the game until I realised there was a cheat command. I felt like a huge part of the enjoyment of the game came from the satisfaction of putting in the time, playing properly, discovering and building things and progressing as the game was meant to be played? It's completely stripped of all of that knowing that people can just cheat and skip their way ahead to getting everything really quickly. It's not as impressive otherwise, and takes away the sense of achievement and satisfaction you get from grinding to get the advanced stuff.. regardless of single player or online.
i agree with you 100 % after i had a 100 hours in the game someone on discord said they would give themelevs there skills back after dying , but just knowing there is cheats could almost ruint he game for me tbh i don't wanna put all this hard work in while others just press a few cheats how is a brutal game if u can cheat

they need to remove the cheats NOW

ATT*** DEVS PLEASE REMOVE THE CHEATS it will ruin the game in the end no one will put the time in

plus this game is online co op so i don't even understand why the cheats are on when u can pvp
hi friends Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:14am 
This entire post sounds like some random excuse of a parent yelling at call of duty PR (or advert, whatever you wanna call it) on streets.
Last edited by hi friends; Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:15am
Dahanamo Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by #GLOCK-23:
Originally posted by Dahanamo:
It may sound a bit sad and naive, but why is cheating allowed in this game??

I was really enjoying playing the game until I realised there was a cheat command. I felt like a huge part of the enjoyment of the game came from the satisfaction of putting in the time, playing properly, discovering and building things and progressing as the game was meant to be played? It's completely stripped of all of that knowing that people can just cheat and skip their way ahead to getting everything really quickly. It's not as impressive otherwise, and takes away the sense of achievement and satisfaction you get from grinding to get the advanced stuff.. regardless of single player or online.
i agree with you 100 % after i had a 100 hours in the game someone on discord said they would give themelevs there skills back after dying , but just knowing there is cheats could almost ruint he game for me tbh i don't wanna put all this hard work in while others just press a few cheats how is a brutal game if u can cheat

they need to remove the cheats NOW

ATT*** DEVS PLEASE REMOVE THE CHEATS it will ruin the game in the end no one will put the time in

plus this game is online co op so i don't even understand why the cheats are on when u can pvp

PRECISELY. Someone completely understands.

It's like seeing a screenshot of someone's cool base, armour.. whatever it may be.. all means nothings if you can just cheat to get it. Remove the ability to cheat... then seeing those types of screenshots and posts will be far more enjoyable and actually rewarding for the player.
Dahanamo Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by Hamster wheel powered legends:
This entire post sounds like some random excuse of a parent yelling at call of duty PR (or advert, whatever you wanna call it) on streets.

You have a weird sense of sound.
hi friends Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by Dahanamo:
Originally posted by Hamster wheel powered legends:
This entire post sounds like some random excuse of a parent yelling at call of duty PR (or advert, whatever you wanna call it) on streets.

You have a weird sense of sound.
Not my fault that this post sound stupid as that.
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