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ultra Mar 5, 2021 @ 1:54pm
does the vegvisir mark the closest boss on my map?
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Originally posted by Ultra Caucasian:
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Unfortunately, no :(
Wariat117 Mar 5, 2021 @ 2:09pm 
vegvisirs actually show the closest to them boss location (of their respective boss, as in black forest vegvisirs point towards the elder only etc)

runestones don't show bosses at all ;D they rarely give lore tho


edit:
It seems that someone renamed "vegvisir" to runestone on wiki (and merged it too) so i guess that's source of confusion
Last edited by Wariat117; Mar 5, 2021 @ 2:13pm
Wariat117 Mar 5, 2021 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by XartaX:
There's no confusion, the Vegvisir is an actual runestone. And no, it doesn't necessarily show the closest boss.
any examples where it doesn't show closest location :V?
the code is literally created to show only the closest~~ (well unless you use mod)

also in my opinion it doesn't have anything to do with runestones,
you can't read vegvisirs after all and they look different from runestone too
and they are separate classes in code too

not to mention runestones are whole locations,
while vegvisirs are just single piece that can be implanted into locations ;d
Last edited by Wariat117; Mar 5, 2021 @ 2:22pm
queen's gambit Mar 5, 2021 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
any examples where it doesn't show closest location :V?
the code is literally created to show only the closest~~ (well unless you use mod)

also in my opinion it doesn't have anything to do with runestones,
you can't read vegvisirs after all and they look different from runestone too
and they are separate classes in code too

not to mention runestones are whole locations,
while vegvisirs are just single piece that can be implanted into locations ;d

In one of my s|-|itty low level playground worlds it showed one on a separate island despite there being one closer on my own island.

https://i.imgur.com/6oQw45F.png

And it's a rock that's been inscribed with a symbol, so it's a runestone.


Hate to be that guy, but it's not just a runestone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegv%C3%ADsir

It would more accurately be called a guidestone or wayfinder.
Wariat117 Mar 5, 2021 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by XartaX:
In one of my s|-|itty low level playground worlds it showed one on a separate island despite there being one closer on my own island.

https://i.imgur.com/6oQw45F.png
wait, you placed bed on the vegvisir?

when I say "closest" I mean "closest" to the vehvisir you use
not "closest to centre of map"
not "closest to bed"
not "closest to starting spawn point" (it's not always at the center)


edit:
I assume you used the vegvisir at spawn point...
Which isn't shown on the map here, so probably the spawn is on the right side side, which means vegvisir IS closer to the boss on the other island
the boss on the left side is too far away
Last edited by Wariat117; Mar 5, 2021 @ 11:40pm
Lime Mar 6, 2021 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
any examples where it doesn't show closest location :V?
the code is literally created to show only the closest~~ (well unless you use mod)

also in my opinion it doesn't have anything to do with runestones,
you can't read vegvisirs after all and they look different from runestone too
and they are separate classes in code too

not to mention runestones are whole locations,
while vegvisirs are just single piece that can be implanted into locations ;d

In one of my s|-|itty low level playground worlds it showed one on a separate island despite there being one closer on my own island.

https://i.imgur.com/6oQw45F.png

And it's a rock that's been inscribed with a symbol, so it's a runestone.
That doesn't show us where your marker stone is. Can you zoom out a bit more so we can see the start point?

I ask because every time I've paid attention, it points me to the closest boss spawn. I'd love to verify if that's not a rule, but just a coincidence.
Wariat117 Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:39am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
It is a runestone...

A runestone is simply a rock that's been inscribed. That's all. The vegvisir symbol itself has been inscribed into a rock, hence it's a runestone. Look at the actual object ingame.
it's actually painted over not inscribed
Wariat117 Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
it's actually painted over not inscribed

It looks pretty much the same as the objects that are actually called runestones. So in that case the runestones aren't runestones either.
it looks totally different from runestones tho
VadeN Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
it's actually painted over not inscribed

It looks pretty much the same as the objects that are actually called runestones. So in that case the runestones aren't runestones either.
Incorrect.
Veg(road)visir(viewer) = Waypointer.
Runestone = A stone with runes. Runes are old norse characters/signs used instead of modern letters.
For it to be called "runestone" it has to have runes, which vegvisirs don't.
VadeN Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by vadeN:
Incorrect.
Veg(road)visir(viewer) = Waypointer.
Runestone = A stone with runes. Runes are old norse characters/signs used instead of modern letters.
For it to be called "runestone" it has to have runes, which vegvisirs don't.

Nope.

" runestone is >typically< a raised stone with a runic inscription, but the term can also be applied to >inscriptions on boulders and on bedrock<."
No, this is also incorrect.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runsten
"A rune stone is a carefully selected stone or monolith with runes carved by a rune carver."
Wariat117 Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by vadeN:
Incorrect.
Veg(road)visir(viewer) = Waypointer.
Runestone = A stone with runes. Runes are old norse characters/signs used instead of modern letters.
For it to be called "runestone" it has to have runes, which vegvisirs don't.

Nope.

" runestone is >typically< a raised stone with a runic inscription, but the term can also be applied to >inscriptions on boulders and on bedrock<."
vegvisir isn't raised stone nor boulder nor bedrock tho

Originally posted by vadeN:
No, this is also incorrect.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runsten
press button "english" on this page, you get this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runestone
A runestone is typically a raised stone with a runic inscription, but the term can also be applied to inscriptions on boulders and on bedrock
which is what the other guy quoted
Last edited by Wariat117; Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:54am
Wariat117 Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runestone

Secondly, the vegvisir is considered to be a rune anyway.
considered by who ;d?
VadeN Mar 6, 2021 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Wariat117:
Originally posted by vadeN:
No, this is also incorrect.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runsten
press button "english" on this page, you get this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runestone
A runestone is typically a raised stone with a runic inscription, but the term can also be applied to inscriptions on boulders and on bedrock
which is what the other guy quoted
It's poorly translated.
In the swedish text it also explains the difference:
"Solid boulders with rune carvings are called rune blocks and carvings in rock slabs are called rune slabs."
VadeN Mar 6, 2021 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by XartaX:
Originally posted by Wariat117:
considered by who ;d?

E.g. https://sagy.vikingove.cz/origins-of-the-vegvisir-symbol/
It doesn't say anywhere in that article that vegvisir is a rune:
"Reenactors tend to use it as shield decoration or costume embroidery. Among this inconsistent group of people, it is often accepted for “vegvísir” to be “a Germanic and Viking ancient magical rune symbol, which function was that of a compass and was supposed to protect the Viking warriors during seafaring, providing guidance and protection from Gods”. Such an interpretation can only be found in popular literature though"
Wariat117 Mar 6, 2021 @ 7:04am 
anyway, according to tutorial in game vegvisirs are just magical stones~~
no runes included :D

Originally posted by XartaX:
It is a boulder. A boulder is any rock that is larger than 25~ cm.
pretty bad definition ;d any pipe can be boulder this way
Last edited by Wariat117; Mar 6, 2021 @ 7:04am
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