Bonemass is so overrated

[Maelstrom]

I've heard tales of this boss being brutally hard, but I didn't want to cheese it with a tower or frost arrows so instead I went in with full set of level 4 iron armor, level 4 iron mace, level 4 huntsman bow with ironhead arrows (to interrupt his health regeneration), stack of poison resist mead, stack of medium healing mead, stack of tasty mead, stack of minor stamina mead. Turnip stew, sausages, carrot soup for food.

Spent a bit of time first clearing the area around him thoroughly and using the hoe and a ton of stone to make sure all the ground within about 40 yards of his altar was out of the water, clear of obstructions, and reasonably flat. There was a fire geyser I couldn't remove but the surtlings didn't do much damage to me so I decided I'd deal with the surtling spawns as they happened.

Then I gathered my courage, tossed in the withered bones... and.. he just kind of fell over. I was disappointed. I couldn't parry his slams even with a max upgraded banded shield but I was able to dodge roll them, I kited him out of his poison with my bow. He's so slow I was able to kill all of his adds while I was moving him around. There was one surtling that was really annoying because it kept hiding behind the boss but I was able to snipe him with my bow eventually.

I only had to use one of my healing meads and I still had 4 minutes left on my poison resist when he died. I was like "That's it?"

Onward to the mountains! I hear there's a nice, friendly dragon there...

[Stonewool Jackson]

Origineel geplaatst door Brickless:

It actually has abbilities you have to prepare for.

Bonemass is actually the first boss we liked cause we couldn't just dumpster it without the right weapons, potions and strategy.

Weapons, maybe. Strategy . . . eh.

I beat every boss by keeping my distance and bringing 800 arrows, even yagluth although jesus christ I really did need 800 arrows for him

[BaCaz]

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Origineel geplaatst door ThunderKeil:

I've heard this parroted a number of times, it's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
The world is generated such that it's nearly impossible to encounter a swamp before you find a mountain, and you unlock frost resistance mead as soon as you kill a leech, i.e. as soon as you first enter a swamp. (which you don't even need - campfires serve just fine for your first venture in)

The fact that bonemass is weak to frost means the devs want to reward players for venturing into the next biome early, that's not ''cheesing'' it, it's playing the game as intended. Unlike terraforming the whole area around the boss spawn to make it an easier fight, which objectively is cheesing the ♥♥♥♥ out of it.

+1 to this

The area is reachable and it´s up to the player to use this advantage against the bonemass. His weakness to frost damage is literally a hint for using this approach if you are more into archery than melee.

Tell me again how you knew he would be weak to frost ? There is no frost weapon prior to frost arrows and not much to get from mountains before you have killed bonemass. So you were informed of his weakness and thus you choose to cheese by going into the mountains to farm enough drake's for arrows. (Yes I read your; 'look at me mom' post too). Any argument that clearly involves you knowing what to do/expect and acting accordingly is cheesy and incomparable to an unspoiled attemt(which is what you base game design around for singleplayer).
So like I said before, go fight him like a noob who doesn't know ♥♥♥♥ and see if the difficulty changes.

[CrOnA]

Origineel geplaatst door Bunker:

since when do folks say kited insted of pulled?
getting old sucks bois

some kinda new rap song out or somthin?

kiting has been around for a long ass time especially since WoW lol

[Stonewool Jackson]

Origineel geplaatst door BaCaz:

Tell me again how you knew he would be weak to frost ? There is no frost weapon prior to frost arrows and not much to get from mountains before you have killed bonemass. So you were informed of his weakness and thus you choose to cheese by going into the mountains to farm enough drake's for arrows. (Yes I read your; 'look at me mom' post too). Any argument that clearly involves you knowing what to do/expect and acting accordingly is cheesy and incomparable to an unspoiled attemt(which is what you base game design around for singleplayer).
So like I said before, go fight him like a noob who doesn't know ♥♥♥♥ and see if the difficulty changes.

I had stolen dragon eggs, collected freeze glands and wolf pelts before I even found a swamp biome. Want to know what an ''unspoiled noob's'' playthrough looks like? It mostly involves being stuck in the black forest stage for 200 days because the elder spawned on a remote island & I can't figure out what the ♥♥♥♥ I need to start crafting with the wolf pelts.

You *assume* I used frost arrows due to prior knowledge, when in fact I brought 2 stacks of every type I had and found it the ♥♥♥♥ out for myself.

(Yes I read your; 'look at me mom' post too)

literally no clue what you're referring to

[Macdallan]

Maelstrom, it sounds like you were extremely well prepared for the fight. Probably more than most players would prep. I can't say I'm surprised you found it to be fairly easy.

I wasn't anywhere near that well equipped and it was definitely a bit of a challenge. I think I enjoyed it more because it wasn't easy.

I only flattened a small area with the hoe because one section had way too much water but didn't think it was worth flattening the whole area. I had no movement issues, and some of the deeper water helped a bit.

Gear? Level 2 iron mace. Level 2 Iron helmet. Level 2 troll armour, pants, cloak. Banded shield at level 2 (I think... it may have been level 1). Poison resistance mead but no other mead. Flint arrows, fine bow at max level. Skills in the 50-60 range, I think. Neck tail, meat, sausage for food. Poison resist ran out once during the fight. Had to eat a few times to keep my HP max up. I didn't deal with adds very well at first so it took a while. Nearly died a few times because I had no healing mead. Had to run away and dodge a lot. Rested buff ran out so that slowed me down even more. Wasn't able to stop and rest long enough at a fire I made in a tower to get it back. Shot a few arrows but mostly stuck with melee.

[RasaNova]

My first try was with a group of 6 or 7 of us, we knew we needed poison resist, the best available food, and maces. It was a disaster.many deaths, pure chaos.

2nd try was me and 1 other with frost arrows. It took a few minutes but came out without a scratch.

It's half preparation, half being careful, and half not boosting his and his minions with +40% health per player.

[gerald2]

Then dragon will dissapoint you even more lol its just half hour shooting to target wchich cannot hit you ,w/o big preparations really ,i just dug trench around altar even not covered it with ceiling ,just take alot arrows lol u will need em.
About bonemass i think adds did more damage to me than boss itself ,if ure prepared its piece of cake.

[Superguy]

I fought him with a level 2 iron kit, died a few times, no arrows as didn't find much iron, used a mace though. Once you win you win.

[RasaNova]

Origineel geplaatst door gerald2:

Then dragon will dissapoint you even more lol its just half hour shooting to target wchich cannot hit you ,w/o big preparations really ,i just dug trench around altar even not covered it with ceiling ,just take alot arrows lol u will need em.
About bonemass i think adds did more damage to me than boss itself ,if ure prepared its piece of cake.

Yeah no joke. Moder was basically dodge the ranged attacks til it lands, then run up and whack it from behind with a sword, blocking with shield as needed, repeat. I think it could use a speed upgrade or something., because the hardest part of a boss fight shouldn't be lugging eggs to an altar.

[Atma]

I like Bonemass, because he is the only boss that feels like a boss.

Summons adds, has an AoE, does a hard melee hit, etc.

It's a shame that poison resistance makes his main mechanic (poison cloud) entirely trivial.

He is the only boss that doesn't feel like he's missing something, though.

[Cooperal]

Origineel geplaatst door Bunker:

since when do folks say kited insted of pulled?
getting old sucks bois

some kinda new rap song out or somthin?

I've known that terminology to pre-date games like WoW. At least 15 years and surely more. I've seen plenty of people using it with the expectation that everyone is familiar by this point.

Kiting is a rinse and repeat process of continuously pulling a high HP enemy across the duration of a fight, and taking free shots every time you create a safe distance. Pulling is simply bringing an enemy to a preferred location.

[Qbert ⭐]

Origineel geplaatst door Maelstrom:

I've heard tales of this boss being brutally hard, but I didn't want to cheese it with a tower or frost arrows so instead I went in with full set of level 4 iron armor, level 4 iron mace, level 4 huntsman bow with ironhead arrows (to interrupt his health regeneration), stack of poison resist mead, stack of medium healing mead, stack of tasty mead, stack of minor stamina mead. Turnip stew, sausages, carrot soup for food.

Spent a bit of time first clearing the area around him thoroughly and using the hoe and a ton of stone to make sure all the ground within about 40 yards of his altar was out of the water, clear of obstructions, and reasonably flat. There was a fire geyser I couldn't remove but the surtlings didn't do much damage to me so I decided I'd deal with the surtling spawns as they happened.

Then I gathered my courage, tossed in the withered bones... and.. he just kind of fell over. I was disappointed. I couldn't parry his slams even with a max upgraded banded shield but I was able to dodge roll them, I kited him out of his poison with my bow. He's so slow I was able to kill all of his adds while I was moving him around. There was one surtling that was really annoying because it kept hiding behind the boss but I was able to snipe him with my bow eventually.

I only had to use one of my healing meads and I still had 4 minutes left on my poison resist when he died. I was like "That's it?"

Onward to the mountains! I hear there's a nice, friendly dragon there...

I like your avatar from Castle Age

[GobboKirk]

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since 2007 in WOW

Since 2001 in DAoC, cant remember if we used kite in EQ, prolly not.

Good ol midgard :)

[daemian2k]

Origineel geplaatst door Maelstrom:

Origineel geplaatst door Incitatus Recordings:

Didnt want ti cheese it with frost arrows? lol what about using 3 different meads?
EDIT: 4 Meads...not 3.

Frost arrows come from Mountains, which is a later-game biome than swamps. So it's cheese.

The meads I used are all what's available in the parts of the game that I'm actually supposed to be in at this point. So not cheese.

Blue cheese is best cheese. But unfortunately we can't craft it in-game.

Nice job, I don't see frost arrows as cheese, if you can survive the mountains to get some stuff to fight with then its a sound strategy. We didn't use arrows when we killed him. But I like your strategy. We had two people with serpent shields and Lvl 3 Iron maces and Level 3 Iron armor tanking and kiting while one had a level 3 Iron sledge and Iron armor taking care of his mobs. Used poison, med healing, and stamina meads with serpent stew, sausages, and yellow mushrooms.
BTW blue cheese is best cheese lol.

[BaCaz]

Origineel geplaatst door ThunderKeil:

Origineel geplaatst door BaCaz:

Tell me again how you knew he would be weak to frost ? There is no frost weapon prior to frost arrows and not much to get from mountains before you have killed bonemass. So you were informed of his weakness and thus you choose to cheese by going into the mountains to farm enough drake's for arrows. (Yes I read your; 'look at me mom' post too). Any argument that clearly involves you knowing what to do/expect and acting accordingly is cheesy and incomparable to an unspoiled attemt(which is what you base game design around for singleplayer).
So like I said before, go fight him like a noob who doesn't know ♥♥♥♥ and see if the difficulty changes.

I had stolen dragon eggs, collected freeze glands and wolf pelts before I even found a swamp biome. Want to know what an ''unspoiled noob's'' playthrough looks like? It mostly involves being stuck in the black forest stage for 200 days because the elder spawned on a remote island & I can't figure out what the ♥♥♥♥ I need to start crafting with the wolf pelts.

You *assume* I used frost arrows due to prior knowledge, when in fact I brought 2 stacks of every type I had and found it the ♥♥♥♥ out for myself.

(Yes I read your; 'look at me mom' post too)

literally no clue what you're referring to

Okay so let me just get this straight. After spending 200 days in the dark forest, you figured mountains would have to be next (seeing as you had no hivemind info) so you get to the mountains and you start to take damage, but you quickly figure out that you can use camp fires to stay alive (this is your only option afaict as you didn't find a swamp and thus didn't have frost rest pots, again with no hivemind info). You then proceed to own giants, wolf's and drake's in your bronze armor with your bronze weapons kiting around your fire places.
When you go to fight bonemass you bring, every tool, type of weapon and type of arrow. You realize (again with no hivemind info) that you can terraform to make it easier but you choose not to do it. When you start the fight you hit him once with every type of weapon and arrow type to figure out what's best and defeat him np.

Sounds unlikely (not impossible) and even if you managed this, can you really not tell that it's unlikely that anyone (the 99%) else would do the same?