remove building stability?

[Shiryu]

I think this is going ruin the fun of building.

UPDATE...
the background is I watched this video which talks about today's update during my lunch time....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqsTqWGijX0&lc=UgzyI2uHf2Fe33iza3d4AaABAg.9LbF6fcY18s9LbsGFa5CC-

and I was shocked... and I thought OMFG, really?
and first thing I did is came to forum and post this question...then I want back to work..

by this question, I really meant: remove building stability (in today's update)? this would ruin the fun of building..

[LordOfTheBread]

No, learn to build.

This is exactly why building is fun.

[Merle]

Maybe try learning the stability system?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3YQGufXgA

[Merle]

At the end of the game you can build about 50m high if you have enough iron. You can build even higher if you use the tall rocks in the plains as a building platform. You can also build in trees and trees count as ground.

[oulala]

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

No, learn to build.

This is exactly why building is fun.

for you yes, for me yes. but not for everyone.
if you look at a game like Medieval Engineers, theres a possibility to disable structural itnegrity to build big.

I would understand if it wasnt in the game, but if the game wants to attract a builders playerbase, it might be a good idea to add along with a "creative mode".

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by oulala:

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

No, learn to build.

This is exactly why building is fun.

for you yes, for me yes. but not for everyone.
if you look at a game like Medieval Engineers, theres a possibility to disable structural itnegrity to build big.

I would understand if it wasnt in the game, but if the gameplay is reliant on a builders playerbase, it might be a good idea to add along with a "creative mode".

Then play medieval engineers, or use a mod. Why do every complaint is asking for a core system to be changed?

This is a core system opf the game, something they spent time making I don't see it removed, not even in a creative mode.

A sandbox mode is semi planned, just look at the roadmap.

Anyway, only people that don't understand teh building system complain, pthers builders are making crazy things in this game as is.

[oulala]

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

Originally posted by oulala:

for you yes, for me yes. but not for everyone.
if you look at a game like Medieval Engineers, theres a possibility to disable structural itnegrity to build big.

I would understand if it wasnt in the game, but if the gameplay is reliant on a builders playerbase, it might be a good idea to add along with a "creative mode".

Then play medieval engineers, or use a mod. Why do every complaint is asking for a core system to be changed?

This is a core system opf the game, something they spent time making I don't see it removed, not even in a creative mode.

A sandbox mode is semi planned, just look at the roadmap.

Anyway, only people that don't understand teh building system complain, pthers builders are making crazy things in this game as is.

sure they do, but removing the cconstraint allows even crazier build for people who have hte pacience. and it costs nothing its not something they have to code or anthing.

me personally I dont need it in the game, im just saying, it could attract more people, litterally for free.

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by oulala:

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

Then play medieval engineers, or use a mod. Why do every complaint is asking for a core system to be changed?

This is a core system opf the game, something they spent time making I don't see it removed, not even in a creative mode.

A sandbox mode is semi planned, just look at the roadmap.

Anyway, only people that don't understand teh building system complain, pthers builders are making crazy things in this game as is.

sure they do, but removing the cconstraint allows even crazier build for people who have hte pacience. and it costs nothing its not something they have to code or anthing.

me personally I dont need it in the game, im just saying, it could attract more people, litterally for free.

If you don't need why do you ask? Where are these hypothetical others that have no patience (good luck with that in Valheim)?

The removal of the integrity system is both not needed and not wanted by the community at large and that's all there is to it.

[Kraft51]

Originally posted by oulala:

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

No, learn to build.

This is exactly why building is fun.

for you yes, for me yes. but not for everyone.
if you look at a game like Medieval Engineers, theres a possibility to disable structural itnegrity to build big.

I would understand if it wasnt in the game, but if the game wants to attract a builders playerbase, it might be a good idea to add along with a "creative mode".

i'm TELLING you that ME and SE's structural integrity doesn't limit you to small/medium sized builds. i've seen some pretty bloody epic builds that had structural integrity enabled, during survival mode no less. don't downplay the mechanics so much, they are more diverse than you seem to believe they are.

the building in Valheim requires, much like the gameplay theme throughout the entire game works, better building materials in order to build larger stable structures. so even building has an upgrade system like any other mechanic in Valheim.

[oulala]

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

Originally posted by oulala:

sure they do, but removing the cconstraint allows even crazier build for people who have hte pacience. and it costs nothing its not something they have to code or anthing.

me personally I dont need it in the game, im just saying, it could attract more people, litterally for free.

If you don't need why do you ask? Where are these hypothetical others that have no patience (good luck with that in Valheim)?

The removal of the integrity system is both not needed and not wanted by the community at large and that's all there is to it.

well clearly OP wants it, and I doubt he is the only single one. I dont ask for it myself (where did I?), I just say it wouldnt hurt anyone, and wouldnt really cost development time, therefore I dont see any valid reason to be vehement against it

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by oulala:

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

If you don't need why do you ask? Where are these hypothetical others that have no patience (good luck with that in Valheim)?

The removal of the integrity system is both not needed and not wanted by the community at large and that's all there is to it.

well clearly OP wants it, and I doubt he is the only single one. I dont ask for it myself (where did I?), I just say it wouldnt hurt anyone, and wouldnt really cost development time, therefore I dont see any valid reason to be vehement against it

Imagine making complex systems to have a community asking to have them removed all day long.

That's what OP and you are asking, I never said you personally, I personally do not care if you have a problem with building or not. All I see that most people have no problem.

Of course game can have an option for everything, a toggle for deathquitoes, a toggle for ore restriction, a toggle for day only, a toggle the rain, a toggle for the wind...

Or people can just mod their game and take their rsponsabilities as well to adapt the game to their playstyle. more power to them that does not mean core game needs to be changed.

Everyone can learn how to build in this game, it is very easy and color coded. The only excuse would be being color blind (a color blind mode is talked about btw).

[oulala]

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

Originally posted by oulala:

well clearly OP wants it, and I doubt he is the only single one. I dont ask for it myself (where did I?), I just say it wouldnt hurt anyone, and wouldnt really cost development time, therefore I dont see any valid reason to be vehement against it

Imagine making complex systems to have a community asking to have them removed all day long.

That's what OP and you are asking, I never said you personally, I personally do not care if you have a problem with building or not. All I see that most people have no problem.

Of course game can have an option for everything, a toggle for deathquitoes, a toggle for ore restriction, a toggle for day only, a toggle the rain, a toggle for the wind...

Or people can just mod their game and take their rsponsabilities as well to adapt the game to their playstyle. more power to them that does not mean core game needs to be changed.

Everyone can learn how to build in this game, it is very easy and color coded. The only excuse would be being color blind (a color blind mode is talked about btw).

yea how does the core game have to be changed for that?
you can still play the way you like to, me too.
again I AM NOT ASKING FOR TI MYSELF get hat idea out of your head.
it would require 0 balancing time, 0 art time, a barely any programming unlike alot of other option people are asking for. thats all im stating, that there is no need to have a heated debate about it, like in many other threads.
OP can ask for it, maybe hell get it maybe not, but theres no valid reason to fight against it.
and yet, here come the heated debate, about litterally nothing.

im out, I said what I had to.

[BGratz]

I thought no until

Originally posted by oulala:

... a possibility to disable structural itnegrity to build big...

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Seriously, OP? lmfao

[Moon]

I can understand why people would want this, but if anything it should be an option for it in the game, just as much as difficulty should be a option. However building restraints also forces players to think before they build. Also forces them to use different materials instead of just wood or planks, instead of using 'core wood' or the sort that would actually give better building stability.

The reason why it is in the game now, is progression reasons, why would you progress in the game if you can already build a giant wooden fort or stone castle?

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by oulala:

Originally posted by LordOfTheDread:

Imagine making complex systems to have a community asking to have them removed all day long.

That's what OP and you are asking, I never said you personally, I personally do not care if you have a problem with building or not. All I see that most people have no problem.

Of course game can have an option for everything, a toggle for deathquitoes, a toggle for ore restriction, a toggle for day only, a toggle the rain, a toggle for the wind...

Or people can just mod their game and take their rsponsabilities as well to adapt the game to their playstyle. more power to them that does not mean core game needs to be changed.

Everyone can learn how to build in this game, it is very easy and color coded. The only excuse would be being color blind (a color blind mode is talked about btw).

yea how does the core game have to be changed for that?
you can still play the way you like to, me too.
again I AM NOT ASKING FOR TI MYSELF get hat idea out of your head.
it would require 0 balancing time, 0 art time, a barely any programming unlike alot of other option people are asking for. thats all im stating, that there is no need to have a heated debate about it, like in many other threads.
OP can ask for it, maybe hell get it maybe not, but theres no valid reason to fight against it.
and yet, here come the heated debate, about litterally nothing.

im out, I said what I had to.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOU I DON'T CARE HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME.

There is no need for an heated debate since there is no need to change anything.