Nene Route Ending Question (Spoilers)

[Umi]

Good day all!

This post will obviously contains big spoilers for the ending of Nene route.

So I just finished Nene restart ending and I have a few questions I was hoping someone could answer me. If I understand it correctly, Nene made a wish to go back to reverse her parents divorce and "redo things" as a family, once the bottle was full of fragments there was no stopping the magic.

So the bottle gets full, Nene goes back in time and everyone forgets about her including Shuuji, but here is where I get confused.

Everyone has forgotten about Nene, the club is still active without her, everyone has this feeling that something is off, for example the picture on the locker, the chair in the club room, Shuuji notices food doesn't taste the same but he doesn't know why. It's here we learn from Kaidou that Nene is in a different class than Shuuji and he wants to invite her to his Mixer, they both look at eachother, and then Nene carries on walking with Shuuji noting how cute she was. Life jsut sort of goes on from where it left off, the clubs still active, Kaidou is still working towards his confession, they only thing that is different is noone really remembers Nene even though she's around.

But then on the restart ending, the game starts over with all of Nene memories and when we get to see things from Shuuji point of view again, the game sort of...well.."restarts" with the future being slightly different. Which makes no sense since we just saw that everything moved forward without her.

So I guess my question is

1) When Nene went back in time did she go to another dimension/world or did the world restart shortly after Shuuji & Kaidou conversation?

2) If the Nene we know went to another dimension/world then who was the Nene that looked at Kaidou & Shuuji in the main route? Does she have her memories?


Hopefully this makes sense. I'm just trying to rack my brain over this, hopefully someone can help me out here haha!

[Icku]

Originally posted by Berty213:

1) When Nene went back in time did she go to another dimension/world or did the world restart shortly after Shuuji & Kaidou conversation?

Different world (or timeline, if you want). It's even said directly by Shuuji himself that "he may be different than himself from another world"

Originally posted by Berty213:

2) If the Nene we know went to another dimension/world then who was the Nene that looked at Kaidou & Shuuji in the main route? Does she have her memories?

She most likely doesn't. She most likely got replaced by Nene who didn't make that wish.

[Umi]

Ahh okay I'm with you, so the Shuuji in the main route carries on in life forgetting the Nene he knew and the Nene he knew went to a different timeline never to return, that's actually really sad. I mean I know she falls in love with Shuuji again but it's not THE Shuuji. I often wondered why Nene never spoke to Souma about happened after she went to another timeline.

[alreev]

Originally posted by Berty213:

Ahh okay I'm with you, so the Shuuji in the main route carries on in life forgetting the Nene he knew and the Nene he knew went to a different timeline never to return, that's actually really sad. I mean I know she falls in love with Shuuji again but it's not THE Shuuji. I often wondered why Nene never spoke to Souma about happened after she went to another timeline.

because souma from the new Restart timeline never made a contract with Nene, she doesn't know anything

e: just realised this is an old post, sorry for reviving this

[Umi]

Originally posted by AlReev:

Originally posted by Berty213:

Ahh okay I'm with you, so the Shuuji in the main route carries on in life forgetting the Nene he knew and the Nene he knew went to a different timeline never to return, that's actually really sad. I mean I know she falls in love with Shuuji again but it's not THE Shuuji. I often wondered why Nene never spoke to Souma about happened after she went to another timeline.

because souma from the new Restart timeline never made a contract with Nene, she doesn't know anything

e: just realised this is an old post, sorry for reviving this

But she's still an Alp, plus she seems to recognize something in the restart route but she quickly think she's mistaken. I don't know but if I went back in time that she did I'd have to ask her for help or something, they didn't even tell Shiiba about what happened. I think it just bugs me how Shuuji 1 is left to hang dry. There's actually a post on VNDB I read today with a good convo going on about this very subject. :)

[alreev]

Originally posted by Berty213:

Originally posted by AlReev:

because souma from the new Restart timeline never made a contract with Nene, she doesn't know anything

e: just realised this is an old post, sorry for reviving this

But she's still an Alp, plus she seems to recognize something in the restart route but she quickly think she's mistaken. I don't know but if I went back in time that she did I'd have to ask her for help or something, they didn't even tell Shiiba about what happened. I think it just bugs me how Shuuji 1 is left to hang dry. There's actually a post on VNDB I read today with a good convo going on about this very subject. :)

I might've forgotten about that one part, it's been a while since the last time I'm playing this

Will check the VNDB forum thread later, tyvm

[Jackie]

Originally posted by Berty213:

Originally posted by AlReev:

because souma from the new Restart timeline never made a contract with Nene, she doesn't know anything

e: just realised this is an old post, sorry for reviving this

But she's still an Alp, plus she seems to recognize something in the restart route but she quickly think she's mistaken. I don't know but if I went back in time that she did I'd have to ask her for help or something, they didn't even tell Shiiba about what happened. I think it just bugs me how Shuuji 1 is left to hang dry. There's actually a post on VNDB I read today with a good convo going on about this very subject. :)

My theory is that Nanao sensed something magical because Shuuji was visiting there with Nene (sensing Shuuji's magical power he inherited from his mother), but since Nene no longer has any remanence of magical power since she went back in time (hence why she can no longer form a contract) and boys cannot be witches (think I read this in there somewhere), she brushed it off as being mistaken.

[Umi]

Originally posted by Jackie.gc:

Originally posted by Berty213:

But she's still an Alp, plus she seems to recognize something in the restart route but she quickly think she's mistaken. I don't know but if I went back in time that she did I'd have to ask her for help or something, they didn't even tell Shiiba about what happened. I think it just bugs me how Shuuji 1 is left to hang dry. There's actually a post on VNDB I read today with a good convo going on about this very subject. :)

My theory is that Nanao sensed something magical because Shuuji was visiting there with Nene (sensing Shuuji's magical power he inherited from his mother), but since Nene no longer has any remanence of magical power since she went back in time (hence why she can no longer form a contract) and boys cannot be witches (think I read this in there somewhere), she brushed it off as being mistaken.

I think you're right, although I do wonder if there's something magical about Nene or maybe she senses that she use to be a witch because she says "You two", implying that she senses something from Nene as well. That being said, in Nene shoes I still would have told her that she used to be her Alp and explained what happened, it would have made the years growing up less lonley and painful and maybe she could have done something about it, most likley not since the other Souma couldn't come up with an idea but in her shoes I would have been desperate I think.

[Nightgazer12]

Originally posted by Berty213:

Originally posted by AlReev:

because souma from the new Restart timeline never made a contract with Nene, she doesn't know anything

e: just realised this is an old post, sorry for reviving this

But she's still an Alp, plus she seems to recognize something in the restart route but she quickly think she's mistaken. I don't know but if I went back in time that she did I'd have to ask her for help or something, they didn't even tell Shiiba about what happened. I think it just bugs me how Shuuji 1 is left to hang dry. There's actually a post on VNDB I read today with a good convo going on about this very subject. :)

I totally feel you guys. I just finished Nene's route and the whole thing is really bugging me. I don't really like that the Shuuji from the maintime doesn't have "happy" ending. But there's also the ending from the restart route. I don't really get a sense of closure.

[zenshin_kotori]

Originally posted by Berty213:

Ahh okay I'm with you, so the Shuuji in the main route carries on in life forgetting the Nene he knew and the Nene he knew went to a different timeline never to return, that's actually really sad. I mean I know she falls in love with Shuuji again but it's not THE Shuuji. I often wondered why Nene never spoke to Souma about happened after she went to another timeline.

I know I'm super late, I ended up playing it just to get it out of the way first since it was an older game, but boy this game was a whole lot better than I expected it to be. Anyway, I totally agree man and I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I just finished the restart story and the afterstory of it, and I am just sitting here torn because of how sad the "Original Shuuji"(the shuji at the beginning of the game) ended. The fact that the Original Shuuji and the Original Nene are separated and she ends up with the other shuuji just sucks a lot in my opinion. I wish the shuuji from the other timeline could make a wish for the original nene to reunite with the original shuuji. I know there would be plenty of problems with this but it's the most possible way for her to get back, through another person making a contract for the wish. And since the new shuuji has memories of the original, he could desire that possibly out of it being the right thing to do since she loved the other shuuji. But yeah I'm so sad now after that.

[Snoopkirby]

Originally posted by zenshin_kotori:

I know I'm super late, I ended up playing it just to get it out of the way first since it was an older game, but boy this game was a whole lot better than I expected it to be. Anyway, I totally agree man and I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I just finished the restart story and the afterstory of it, and I am just sitting here torn because of how sad the "Original Shuuji"(the shuji at the beginning of the game) ended. The fact that the Original Shuuji and the Original Nene are separated and she ends up with the other shuuji just sucks a lot in my opinion. I wish the shuuji from the other timeline could make a wish for the original nene to reunite with the original shuuji. I know there would be plenty of problems with this but it's the most possible way for her to get back, through another person making a contract for the wish. And since the new shuuji has memories of the original, he could desire that possibly out of it being the right thing to do since she loved the other shuuji. But yeah I'm so sad now after that.

It might not even be the original Nene either, she refers to her time travel as a previous existance(japanese word 前世, "zense").
But it's ambiguous enough that any interpretation is right, and i believe it is intentionally made so.