Getting annoyed getting penalised with "Illegal Snooker" all the time.

[cwattyeso]

I'll firstly admit to not being very good at the game. I have won only two matches in my rising star career out of about 15 attempts now to qualify for tournaments. I normally get completely white washed 3-0 by the CPU in those matches to boot. However one thing I am finding incredibly frustrating that in a lot of matches when I am in a position where I don't have a good scoring chance or have got out of position after a pot or am behind the cpu and need snookers, that when I play for them I keep getting called for "Illegal Snooker".

This often occurs when I have potted a red and then instead of playing for and potting a colour, I just roll the cueball up into it and leave it behind the colour, leaving the opponent snookered. However the referee keeps calling this an 'Illegal Snooker' and then the CPU forces me to continue playing from this position, which of course causes me miss a couple of times trying to get out of it and thus give foul points to the already leading CPU.

Now it's been a few years since I played Snooker IRL but I was always fairly certain the rules allowed you snooker the opponent in the manner I've explained.

[Fluid Druid]

Hmm not seen that yet but its def a glaring mistake if that's the case and needs a priority fix.

[jinx20001]

Originally posted by cwattyeso:

I'll firstly admit to not being very good at the game. I have won only two matches in my rising star career out of about 15 attempts now to qualify for tournaments. I normally get completely white washed 3-0 by the CPU in those matches to boot. However one thing I am finding incredibly frustrating that in a lot of matches when I am in a position where I don't have a good scoring chance or have got out of position after a pot or am behind the cpu and need snookers, that when I play for them I keep getting called for "Illegal Snooker".

This often occurs when I have potted a red and then instead of playing for and potting a colour, I just roll the cueball up into it and leave it behind the colour, leaving the opponent snookered. However the referee keeps calling this an 'Illegal Snooker' and then the CPU forces me to continue playing from this position, which of course causes me miss a couple of times trying to get out of it and thus give foul points to the already leading CPU.

Now it's been a few years since I played Snooker IRL but I was always fairly certain the rules allowed you snooker the opponent in the manner I've explained.

yep not seen this issue in over 38 hours played now but that sounds mightily strange, my only suggestion would be maybe when you think you are rolling up to a colour maybe your not touching it, i think you have to see some yellow trail come off the object ball even just the very smallest amount, and then you MUST hit the power bar dead centre, so basically a perfect shot, its no good in the white zone it has to be centre because if its just short of that centre you will come up short and not actually touch the object ball and cause an illegal snooker.

[MC1_Judge]

But wouldn't that just be a foul and a miss, not an illegal snooker.

I'm not sure but an illegal snooker would be if you rolled up to a ball during a free ball situation. You're not allowed to snooker behind the ball you nominate as the free ball, or leave that ball in a direct line between the cue ball and the object ball.

[cwattyeso]

Originally posted by jinx20001:

yep not seen this issue in over 38 hours played now but that sounds mightily strange, my only suggestion would be maybe when you think you are rolling up to a colour maybe your not touching it, i think you have to see some yellow trail come off the object ball even just the very smallest amount, and then you MUST hit the power bar dead centre, so basically a perfect shot, its no good in the white zone it has to be centre because if its just short of that centre you will come up short and not actually touch the object ball and cause an illegal snooker.

I'm definitely hitting and moving the ball I'm playing up to, I make sure I hit it hard enough that I don't leave a touching ball situation. So I'm not getting the 'Illegal Snooker' because of that. One thing that is also a bit weird is that it seems to happen a lot more in the 6-Red Tournament, that's where I was getting flagged the most. Does that game format have different rules from standard 15-Ball Snooker?

[Jud]

I've been called for a foul, for trickling up to a colour before now, but there was no mention of it being an illegal snooker. I think in my case the game simply didn't detect that I'd hit it (which I certainly did)

[XABATOP]

https://youtu.be/kO_M1ZNt-iE?t=2904 - here is just an example of the situation that occurred (tournament 6 red). I would like to understand this issue

[Nahmy]

Originally posted by cwattyeso:

Originally posted by jinx20001:

yep not seen this issue in over 38 hours played now but that sounds mightily strange, my only suggestion would be maybe when you think you are rolling up to a colour maybe your not touching it, i think you have to see some yellow trail come off the object ball even just the very smallest amount, and then you MUST hit the power bar dead centre, so basically a perfect shot, its no good in the white zone it has to be centre because if its just short of that centre you will come up short and not actually touch the object ball and cause an illegal snooker.

I'm definitely hitting and moving the ball I'm playing up to, I make sure I hit it hard enough that I don't leave a touching ball situation. So I'm not getting the 'Illegal Snooker' because of that. One thing that is also a bit weird is that it seems to happen a lot more in the 6-Red Tournament, that's where I was getting flagged the most. Does that game format have different rules from standard 15-Ball Snooker?

In addition to the usual snooker rules, 6-reds snooker have some extra rules:

1. There will be no more than 5 consecutive 'Foul and a Miss'
calls at any one time.
2. After 4 consecutive 'Foul and a Miss' calls, the referee will
warn the offending player that should a 'Foul and a Miss'
be called again, the following options are available to the
non-striker.
(a) He can play from where the balls have come to rest.
(b) He can ask his opponent to play from where the balls
have come to rest.
(c) He can place the cue-ball anywhere on the table, but
this option cannot be taken if play has reached the
'Snookers required' stage.
3. The player cannot snooker behind a nominated colour at
any time. (Including when playing a colour after potting a
red or a free-ball nominated as a red.)

Rule 3 has tripped me up a few times. Snookers are still possible however, just not behind the coloured ball you hit.