Heavy Cruise abbreviation CH should be CA

[billyzero]

With this gaming shaping up to be so amazing, I'd like to point out a very minor mistake. The proper abbreviation for a heavy cruiser is CA not CH. It's a throwback from the first large cruisers that had armor on them (making them heavier than light cruisers), hence the CA AKA Cruiser, Armored.
It's a small thing but it does break immersion and should be an easy fix.

By the way, I LOVE how you have given us the ability to refine hull classifications to include escorts, etc. MORE options would be AWESOME! You can just wikipedia "navy hull classifications" for options.

[Ziggurt]

Breaks immersion if you expect that future space navy adheres 100% to US Navy nomenclature ;-)

I find it very archaic to be honest.

That being said, I have heard that DEV is being active navy personnel.

[billyzero]

Very true. If the meta is that in the future, the "space navy" breaks from the tradition of a wet navy. To my eyes, it just looks strange.

[Rinky]

It is a Cruiser Heavy, so I can't see any reason to call it CA

[The Quiet Guy]

What about Frigates? That abbreviation differs based upon what country's navy you are looking at.

[Rinky]

Either make full-body US flag paintjob mandatory or remove all ships from the game

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by Manfred:

It is a Cruiser Heavy, so I can't see any reason to call it CA

The historical reason is that historically the 'heavy cruiser' category was a very late introduction basically invented by treaty in 1930. Whereas ships had been considered armored cruisers for about as long as armored powered cruisers existed. The name referring back to the (subsequently extinct) competing class of unarmored cruisers.

AFAIK the modern US navy doesn't actually use the CA classification since shortly after WWII.


But there's not much reason that the Nebulous space navies should be focused on first-half-of-the-20th-century naval classifications.

[Delta_Assault]

Originally posted by Manfred:

It is a Cruiser Heavy, so I can't see any reason to call it CA

So a BB is a Battleship Battleship?

[Mr Bismarck]

Battleshi🅱️

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

Originally posted by Manfred:

It is a Cruiser Heavy, so I can't see any reason to call it CA

So a BB is a Battleship Battleship?

US hull classification symbol for battleships (once they started using one, which they didn't to begin with) was initially "B".

They changed it to "BB" for reasons I haven't been able to find much on.

Note that destroyers are similarly DD despite it being very hard to spell destroyer with two 'D's.

[Kel]

Well, I for one support the motion, especially since I can't choose between different kinds of abbreviations in front of the name. More options would be nice to distinguish your stuff further plz :)

[FalkusKiber]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

So a BB is a Battleship Battleship?

US hull classification symbol for battleships (once they started using one, which they didn't to begin with) was initially "B".

They changed it to "BB" for reasons I haven't been able to find much on.

Note that destroyers are similarly DD despite it being very hard to spell destroyer with two 'D's.

B = Pre-Dreadnought battleship and BB = Post-Dreadnought battleship. HMS Dreadnought revolutionised battleship design.

[Alx]

mmm... CH just makes me doubt. CVH may be? Aaah, yes... Cruiser heavy...
Nope.
+1 for for CA.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by FalkusKiber:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

US hull classification symbol for battleships (once they started using one, which they didn't to begin with) was initially "B".

They changed it to "BB" for reasons I haven't been able to find much on.

Note that destroyers are similarly DD despite it being very hard to spell destroyer with two 'D's.

B = Pre-Dreadnought battleship and BB = Post-Dreadnought battleship. HMS Dreadnought revolutionised battleship design.

I've seen it used that way, but that is not actually what the US navy did. The BB hull designation was (A) introduced in 1920 and (B) applied to all battleships including pre-dreadnoughts all the way back to battleship #1.

[FalkusKiber]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Originally posted by FalkusKiber:

B = Pre-Dreadnought battleship and BB = Post-Dreadnought battleship. HMS Dreadnought revolutionised battleship design.

I've seen it used that way, but that is not actually what the US navy did. The BB hull designation was (A) introduced in 1920 and (B) applied to all battleships including pre-dreadnoughts all the way back to battleship #1.

Cool! I did not know that.

[FlyingWalnuts]

next you'll ask about Destroyers ;P

DD = Destroyer
DE = Destroyer Escort (i.e. a frigate FF)
DDE = Escort Destroyer (i.e. destroy designed for convoy escort and ASW)
DDK = ASW Destroyer
DDG = Missile Destroyer
DEG = Missile Destroyer Escort, which was also FFG)

There are historic reasons for all of these, and none of it is consistent! Although I don't believe the US navy ever used DE and FF at the same time