BioShock Infinite

BioShock Infinite

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Shadowspaz Apr 16, 2013 @ 11:31pm
[Spoilers] I can't figure out the statue...
At the very start, you see a statue of Rosalind Lutece. But it was originally ROBERT Lutece, and it shifts into her. Now that would be fine, on its own... But Rosalind was the original in this dimension. She pulls her "brother" through, and then, after being scattered, they both pull Booker through. But THIS Columbia was made possible by Rosalind. So why is the statue originally Robert?

So far, the only idea I have is that it's little tears here and there caused by pulling Booker through, simply by the fact that the two dimensions are now joined through spacetime. It could be a figment of that other dimension, being "overwritten." It's a very loose theory, admittedly, but it's all I have right now.
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MustardJeep Apr 16, 2013 @ 11:51pm 
I personally liked the idea that they are constantly nit picking each other. So as one wants to tweak the other they tweak the history around.
Caelinus Apr 17, 2013 @ 6:20am 
I think this is probably caused by either Booker's presence, or his memories adjusting to the new information.
Shadowspaz Apr 17, 2013 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Caelinus:
I think this is probably caused by either Booker's presence, or his memories adjusting to the new information.
I was considering that... But Booker's never been to Columbia; That statue just exists in the same dimension he's from. So could it be as simple as his memories? Or could it be that, with the Luteces technically being the same person, he recognized the figure, but perceived it as the male instead, since that was who he met?
Yorutamashi Apr 17, 2013 @ 9:34am 
they are not brothers per se... they are the same person in two different universes, in one of the voxophones rosalind says something about being separated by only one chromosome... i guess that the statue changes because them both being in the same place disrupts this dimension... something like booker's memories reorganizing when he enters the universe when he was actually dead, he receives the dead booker's memories
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Shadowspaz Apr 17, 2013 @ 11:29am 
For the sake of simplicity, I will call them siblings. And having multiple of the same person in a dimension hasn't disrupted anything anywhere else, aside from the recreation of memories of that person. The reality remains as a whole, stable.

Also, I'm not sure that death is what causes that; It's just entering an alternate reality. When the Luteces first pull Booker in, Robert makes a comment on how he's creating new memories from his old one. Robert himself went through the same thing. For example the Booker in this dimension (Comstock) never had a daughter, so he didn't remember who Anna was. The bleeding nose is a result of the mental strain required to craft (or remember) these memories, as seen at the end.

When you enter the dimension where Booker has died, the only reason he starts bleeding is because of the blatant evidence of his new past: Vox member running up and praising him, the Vox posters, etc. So he remembered a past that wasn't his. The death only has an impact where the dead enters a dimension where they are living. They will try recreating memories of their past life (death) in their new one (alive), and it doesn't work. They can't make sense of it. It drives them mad, and the intense contrast between having been dead and now being alive causes constant mental strain, leading to the endless nosebleeds.

Got kinda carried away, but I think a lot of this was just me confirming what I know. :P
Yorutamashi Apr 17, 2013 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Shadowspaz:
maybe the luteces are just trolling us! like when u look thru the first telescope in the game u see robert juggling some balls while rosalind stares xD
January 2035 Apr 17, 2013 @ 1:45pm 
Perhaps Rosalind wasn't the original in that universe until they influenced the past such that she is the original in that universe.
They're scattered around the probability or whatever, and in their current state, I think they can do whatever they like with changing the variables. A Rosalind or a Robert in each universe is one such variable. Perhaps making it Rosalind's home universe makes it more likely that Booker succeeds.
Last edited by January 2035; Apr 17, 2013 @ 1:46pm
Bite Apr 17, 2013 @ 1:53pm 
Just a tear showing something from another dimension, people over Columbia see them quite often.
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