Burial at Sea Ep. 1 ending *SPOILERS*

[ChazCliffhanger]

So I just finished Episode one of Burial at Sea, and I am a little confused about what happened. So I think this is what happened, correct me if I'm wrong. So at the end your trying to pull her out of the vent and it shows you cutting off a childs head in another universe. I think Comstock shaved his beard and pretended to be Booker, and he wanted the girl for whatever reason. Then it showed him in another universe fighting for the child, and it being decapited. What?! How did the girl in the vents die. Who was the baby they were playing tug of war for? Please help!!!

[ChazCliffhanger]

Nvm. I found it out. I think in a parelell universe Comstock tried to get Booker's daughter but in this universe the attemt failed and she was decapitated. So he told the Lutece siblings to erase his memories and send him to Rapture. He then remembered and so did Elizabeth and she killed him. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[CmputrBlu]

Yes..pretty much it. :)

During the baptism in Bioshocj Infinite we get the universe where Bookers does take the baptism and becomes Comstock. Everything goes along like we see in the game but then there is another spilt where there are two possible outcomes; Comstock succeeds in stealing baby Elizabeth or fails becuase she doesn't survive the struggle between Booker and Comstock accross the two universes. Burial At Sea is pretty much events which take place in this third universe.

As a sidenote; there is also a universe where Booker ends up with a headless (and very dead) baby Elizabeth. How much more that screwed up Booker we MIGHT never know.

[tranz2deep]

Originally posted by ChazCliffhanger:

Nvm. I found it out. I think in a parelell universe Comstock tried to get Booker's daughter but in this universe the attemt failed and she was decapitated. So he told the Lutece siblings to erase his memories and send him to Rapture. He then remembered and so did Elizabeth and she killed him. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Close! The Lutece Gate, unlike Elizabeth, tends to scramble the memories of the traveler. This happened to Booker in the main game, as you might recall.. as another example, Robert's own memories got scragged when Rosalind brought her dimensional analog in, and she helped him. this is why they are so alike they can even finish each other's sentences.

[ChazCliffhanger]

Thanks guys! I'll probably do something like this when episode 2 comes out!

[Ivlichnov]

Originally posted by tranz2deep:

Close! The Lutece Gate, unlike Elizabeth, tends to scramble the memories of the traveler.

I think that the Booker in Bioshock Infinite, at first had his memories scrambled when he went through a tear. But as he gain experience at tear jumping, he got better at remembering with each jump.

In Burial at Sea this was a new Booker who had only been through one tear. So his memory was scrambled.

[Marisa Reset]

What I'm unclear about is why Elizabeth needed to go kill this Booker. It didn't seem to be beneficial towards getting rid of all the Comstocks. Was she just letting off some steam? I hope they'll answer this in Episode 2.

[Bite]

Originally posted by FlanDjango:

What I'm unclear about is why Elizabeth needed to go kill this Booker. It didn't seem to be beneficial towards getting rid of all the Comstocks. Was she just letting off some steam? I hope they'll answer this in Episode 2.

The best theory I've seen about why this particular Comstock was important said that, basicly, since this Comstock had willingly jumped into another universe where there was no Ana, no Booker, no Columbia, etc, he couldn't be reached by Elizabeth's universal cleansing of Comstocks, basicly he was out of reach, and all alone during Burial at Sea Elizabeth was simply finishing what she started, "debt collection" as she calls it, but taking out Comstock just like that would be unfair, so she had to make him remember him what he had done, so he could truly be sorry about it, and be propperly punished for it.

[CmputrBlu]

There should be no Comstocks at the end of Bioshock Infinite so it malkes you wonder why there is a Comstock here at all. Also why does she seem so intent on making Comstock remember his actions? (can' t say she was looking to kill him unless she knew that Big Daddy kill him in the end. Also allowing someone to be killed is not the same as her having decided to kill him from the get go.

Anyway it's possible that these events take place before what we saw at the end of Infinite. We know that there are a bunch of universes each with there own set of Booker, Elizabeth and/or Comstock. Each with it's one different version of the story. I wonder if this is just another Elizabeth and not the one we saw in Infinite.

Comstock had Elizabeth locked up; but it's possible there is a universe where she escapes before Booker shows up.

The who muiltiple universe trope allows the go anywhere with the games; but it can become a bit too much like time travel stories. :)

[Bite]

Originally posted by CmputrBlu:

There should be no Comstocks at the end of Bioshock Infinite so it malkes you wonder why there is a Comstock here at all. Also why does she seem so intent on making Comstock remember his actions? (can' t say she was looking to kill him unless she knew that Big Daddy kill him in the end. Also allowing someone to be killed is not the same as her having decided to kill him from the get go.

This Comstock escaped to another universe before the ending of Infinite, so he basicly got away with it, since he wasn't even on his original universe, and he was in one in which he didn't even exist, so he couldn't be erased basicly, or at least that seems reasonable.

Originally posted by CmputrBlu:

Anyway it's possible that these events take place before what we saw at the end of Infinite. We know that there are a bunch of universes each with there own set of Booker, Elizabeth and/or Comstock. Each with it's one different version of the story. I wonder if this is just another Elizabeth and not the one we saw in Infinite.

It's been confirmed this happens after the ending of Infinite, the Elizabeth in Burial at Sea is the same Elizabeth we knew from the main game, and she has been shaped by the events of Infinite.

Originally posted by CmputrBlu:

Comstock had Elizabeth locked up; but it's possible there is a universe where she escapes before Booker shows up.

Most likely, but it's kind of irrelevant in any regard.

Originally posted by CmputrBlu:

The who muiltiple universe trope allows the go anywhere with the games; but it can become a bit too much like time travel stories. :)

Well, Levine said in an interview that Episode 2 of Burial at Sea would be surprisingly conclusive for the whole Infinite story, despite the multiverse nature of the story.

[Collector]

Bioshock Infinite очень классная игра!

[CmputrBlu]

Ok Bite. So much for my theories then :)

[Ivlichnov]

Comstock tried to steal Anna in the Bioshock year 1893. It was in that year that this Booker fled to Rapture.

So for Booker in Burial at Sea, this all happened before the Comstock removal.

[Yusco]

Originally posted by CmputrBlu:

There should be no Comstocks at the end of Bioshock Infinite so it malkes you wonder why there is a Comstock here at all. Also why does she seem so intent on making Comstock remember his actions? (can' t say she was looking to kill him unless she knew that Big Daddy kill him in the end. Also allowing someone to be killed is not the same as her having decided to kill him from the get go.

Anyway it's possible that these events take place before what we saw at the end of Infinite. We know that there are a bunch of universes each with there own set of Booker, Elizabeth and/or Comstock. Each with it's one different version of the story. I wonder if this is just another Elizabeth and not the one we saw in Infinite.

Comstock had Elizabeth locked up; but it's possible there is a universe where she escapes before Booker shows up.

The who muiltiple universe trope allows the go anywhere with the games; but it can become a bit too much like time travel stories. :)

Seems more like DeWitt still gets baptised, becomes Comstock but fails to get Anna so he goes into hiding to forget what he's done.

Would still love to see more of Rapture just before it goes to heck.

[słıﺎﺎ ωαłɛr]

I'm so tempted to read every theory about BI and BaS but I stopped reading about them because I want to be surprised when episode 2 comes out. I think some posters have very good theories about BaS' ending and I think some of them might have even gotten it right but it's better for me that the story or ending is left as a mystery.

[Ivlichnov]

Elizabeth wanted Booker to remember what he had done, before she did the deed. This was planned by an Elizabeth who had escaped the syphon and now appears to be working for or with the Lutece's in debt collection.

Elizabeth knew what had happened to Anna in the flashback. She knew who Booker was and that he had lost another girl. So when she turned up in his office, she was angry.

To quote Booker from Infinite "I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of her temper."