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And I really like the amount of depth that there is to the Bioshock series.
I think the reason I used A=1 in the second half of the code is because the letters from the first part of the code come from elements 1-26, Hydrogen through Iron. I couldn't start at 0 there because there is no element 0 (this isn't Mass Effect, after all). I overlooked that step where I needed to separately set A=0 for the purposes of the Vigenere cipher. It seems to be necessary to make the modular arithmetic line up but I don't really understand why.
2) I believe that I read somewhere that the earlier codes in the game are NOT actually what they are shown to be in English. The actual decrypted text goes something along the lines of 'We should replace this with something important eventually'.
That was only for one of the messages (The one Old Elizabeth gave to Booker IIRC). All the other messages have been real. sm
So the following messages were all valid ciphertexts for the shown plaintexts?
1) The tear machine schematics code
2) The big daddy imprinting experiment codes
3) The ace in the hole
If so, can you state your sources?
Thank you
And here is the evidence for the cypers being real and that the one old Elizabeth gave Booker was a stand in. http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Vox_Cipher
At any rate, Osmium, if you want to actually try to decrypt the other SUCHONG Vigenere ciphers, go ahead.
I did solve the cipher for at least one other phrase from Suchong's lab. I tested the phrase "cathode tube" to make sure that I was applying the cipher correctly and it really does say "cathode tube". Well, at the time I wasn't adjusting the proper amount and it technically said "bzsgncd stad". That's how I found that I was one letter off and needed the ROT1 to compensate for my earlier mistake.
I don't have either the game or the DLC installed anymore, so I'd have to watch a let's play on Youtube or something to verify the rest of the codes. I think it's quite plausible that they are all legit.
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Coded_Messages
The staff there went over these already. A contributer there UpgradeTech (a GREAT person) has delved deeply into these. sm
The codes are as follows:
Sc Sc Ti P Li Cl Na Mg P Be Mg (21-21-22-15-3-17-11 12-15-4-12)
Cl He2 Mn Sc Mg V F S Ar Cr (17-2 25-21-12-23-9-16-18-24)
K O C P K Si Fe Na Li S Ar (19-8-6 15-19-14-26 11-3-16-18)
The SUCHONG key, setting A to 0, is (18-20-2-7-14-13-6). Keep subtracting these numbers, in sequence, from the sets above. Treat all 3 lines as one code and repeat the key until you've finished the page. If, when subtracting, you get a negative number, then add it to 26 (e.g. 3 - 14 = -11 + 26 = 15). Then resubstitute each number with its place in the alphabet, A=1, B=2, etc.
3-1-20-8-15-4-5 20-21-2-5 = cathode tube
3-15 19-3-18-21-2-2-5-18 = CO2 scrubber (the 2 is shown in the element part of the code)
1-14-4 8-5-1-20 19-9-14-11 = and heat sink
And just to check our work, here's Elizabeth's decryption, that she does in her head in moments:
http://imgur.com/76c9dh9
Checks out!
Twisting your arm??? This is what I said:
I 'suggested' that you do it, while hinting that I would appreciate it if you did it.
Anyway, this means that the devs believed that there would actually be fans determined enough to actually decrypt the code themselves.