burial at sea episode 2

[Aligned Manatee]

NVM

[Aligned Manatee]

Originally posted by Bellomy:

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

this game wants you to stealth but offers nothing more than a silenced weapon whose ammo is very rare (i know you can pick up the bolts from dead enemies) and some skyhooks if you're lucky

So you haven't reached the Peeping Tom plasmid yet.

Explains a lot.

i have it, it uses a ton of eve and lasts for very little until i hold it down

[Aligned Manatee]

Originally posted by HALF-LIFE 3 λ³:

I never liked the length of the death screen either, but all in all, it's a really fun twist on BioShock Infinite's base gameplay and style. You're saying the game is 'too hard' and that 'I can't be Batman', that's because you aren't using the tools given to you appropriately. This isn't a Batman game, this is BioShock.

but it wants you to be batman by stealthing but those tools aren't there to make it work properly you have 1 silenced weapon 1 plasmid to tell you where enemies are but ammo and money is scare and plasmids use a ton of eve which is also rare

killing enemies/looking around can give you money/eve but the game wants you to stealth instead of killing everything in sight and doesn't provide the tools to kill everyone so you can't look around to get that eve/cash since enemies roam or stay in a specific spot which happens to have valuable items

[Hegemon]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

Originally posted by Bellomy:

So you haven't reached the Peeping Tom plasmid yet.

Explains a lot.

i have it, it uses a ton of eve and lasts for very little until i hold it down

Upgrade it and use it only to wait enemies out or to check where they are. That way it does not use any eve at all. I hardly ever used it to move around.

[Skelly Man]

You're not supposed to kill everyone around you, you're supposed to get in there, get the job done, then get out. Elizabeth is not a fighter, in fact all she did during the course of the main game was throw Booker weapons, medicine and Salts and open tears when instructed to.

If you think Elizabeth actually have a chance against every Splicer and Big Daddy without Booker around, then you're sadly mistaken. If you have a small amount of ammo or EVE, make the most of what you DO have. It WILL matter. If that Smoke Dart you have isn't useful now, use it as a last resort. Will you benefit from using Possesion on a Turret or a Vending Machine? It isn't like the main game where ammo and money were plentiful and you had to kill everyone in the area to progress the story and go to the next area.

I think the problem here is you're comparing it too much to the main game. In the main game and BaS Ep. 1, you could go into a fight, guns-blazing and Vigors ready. With this though, you can't do that. You have to take your time and be conservative. If you do that, you'll be facing the death screen a lot less and you will have a lot more fun with this.

Oh, and for the record, Peeping Tom does NOT eat up your Eve. If anything, Bucking Bronco from the main game and BaS Ep. 1 uses more Salts/Eve than it, and that's saying something.

[Aligned Manatee]

Originally posted by HALF-LIFE 3 λ³:

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it does when you have it non upgraded yeah you may want to stealth but enemies may be in the way of the exit add to the fact if you use skyhooks to get around that they hear you drop down maybe 50ft away despite how light elizabeth is supposed to be she apparently makes a lot of noise jumping off the skyhook for the splicers to hear her

[Eat3n]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

plasmids use a ton of eve which is also rare

This is one of the things that seriously pissed me off about Burial at Sea. In the regular Bioshock we got tonics Gather's Gardens so we could get eve bonuses. None of that is in Burial at Sea. Yet another reason Burial at Sea was ♥♥♥♥.

[Hegemon]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

Originally posted by HALF-LIFE 3 λ³:

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it does when you have it non upgraded yeah you may want to stealth but enemies may be in the way of the exit add to the fact if you use skyhooks to get around that they hear you drop down maybe 50ft away despite how light elizabeth is supposed to be she apparently makes a lot of noise jumping off the skyhook for the splicers to hear her

You are supposed to hold left Ctrl when you land to avoid being heard, that way you can land even right behind the enemy and knock them out (there is even an achievement for that).

Anyways, here is a playthrough on 1998 difficulty (where you can not use any weapons like shotgun and resources are even more scarce), just scroll to the part that is giving you trouble and see how it is completed, the game really does not give you a lot of trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCnpdqNk3EQ

[Bite]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

he splicers hear you if you drop behind them from a skyhook annoying

Crouch before you land and the enemies won't hear you.

[Bite]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

he splicers hear you if you drop behind them from a skyhook annoying

Crouch before you land and the enemies won't hear you.

[Bite]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

the splicers hear you if you drop behind them from a skyhook annoying

Crouch before you land and the enemies won't hear you.

[Gerza71]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

Originally posted by Gerza71:

I played this on hard and I enjoy playing it. Its a hell lot easier then playing Hitman: Absolution.

i had a better time stealthing that game, at least it gave you the tools to do so
this game wants you to stealth but offers nothing more than a silenced weapon whose ammo is very rare (i know you can pick up the bolts from dead enemies) and some skyhooks if you're lucky

That is true what you say about Absolution. The only problems I had in this game is at the start after Liz jumped from the vent, sneak behind the first npc and cannot kill with bare hands. After I done a bit of research and customise my keys, I have no problems afterwards. I'm not an offensive player but a defensive player. Before any action I do, I study my surroundings before I do my next action. In this expansion that Bigdaddy is my big obstacle. I know my characters weekness and her strengths. I could not go toe to toe with the bigdaddy but I can whack those spicers in a surprise attacks however if I do get spotted, I had the handy crossbow for distance shots and the melee for close combat. No need to panic. I kept a cool head about it.

I died a dozens time in the game but I learned from my misstakes.

[Aligned Manatee]

well this dlc was shorter than expected i ended up rushing through the last parts i was so sick of stealth and enemies respawning as soon as i left an area those flame enemies cheat too as they see through peeping tom cloak died several times to them

[Hegemon]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

well this dlc was shorter than expected i ended up rushing through the last parts i was so sick of stealth and enemies respawning as soon as i left an area those flame enemies cheat too as they see through peeping tom cloak died several times to them

Good on you mate. Just like I wrote - you can run past some of the enemies. Also, I could stay hidden indefinitely from those flame splicers when they did not see me disappear and did not stumble into me.

[Aligned Manatee]

Originally posted by Hegemon:

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

well this dlc was shorter than expected i ended up rushing through the last parts i was so sick of stealth and enemies respawning as soon as i left an area those flame enemies cheat too as they see through peeping tom cloak died several times to them

Good on you mate. Just like I wrote - you can run past some of the enemies. Also, I could stay hidden indefinitely from those flame splicers when they did not see me disappear and did not stumble into me.

they teleported to me then did the aoe flame attack while i was cloaked so i had to uncloak to run away which normally meant getting shot by their buddy and dying

[Hegemon]

Originally posted by Aligned Manatee:

they teleported to me then did the aoe flame attack while i was cloaked so i had to uncloak to run away which normally meant getting shot by their buddy and dying

On 1998 playthrough I hid in the little room downstairs (which you have to unlock) and waited there while invisible. They did not even enter, so I just started killing them one by one. I do not remember the regular walkthrough, I think I just fought them, shotgun and all.