brilliant foreshadowing (spoilers)

[Mike Morkleson]

I'm on my 2nd playthrough and in the first lady airship after Elizabeth kills Daisy I heard her say "How do you wash it away?" Which probably meant nothing to me the first time I played but now knowing the ending it's really obvious and part cheesy part brilliant.
Are there a lot of foreshadow moments I missed or is this mainly it?

[Solarmech]

There are some others When Booker and Elizabeth on the Boardwalk outside the Ice Cream Shope there is a hot dog salesman who will say "One for the nice man and his pretty little daughter! What do you say, fellow?". Comstock also talks about Baptism a lot. Old Elizabeth has a Voxophone that says Booker having to "pay down all our debts". There are more out there I am am certain. sm

[BaconStealth]

There's also a part I noticed in the second playthrough where comstock's airship is flying parallel to you while you are on an elevator, and Elizabeth asks if you're okay because your nose is bleeding.

[Agenta]

Also, Esther (the girl that ambushes you in Battleship Bay) calls Elizabeth by the name of Annabelle, which is the long version of the name Anna.

[Solarmech]

Actually, Annabelle is the name of Elizabeth's mother, Annabelle DeWitt (Maiden name Annabelle Watson. Also Lady Annabelle Comstock. sm

[Agenta]

Originally posted by Solarmech:

Actually, Annabelle is the name of Elizabeth's mother, Annabelle DeWitt (Maiden name Annabelle Watson. Also Lady Annabelle Comstock. :bird: sm

And Anna is also the shorter version of Annabelle. Anna is Elizabeth's original name.

[Vagrant]

At the very beginning of the game, on the boat, Brother Luttece has a conversation with his Sister, telling her that Booker isn't the one that's rowing the boat.

At first, I thought he was really just talking about the rather comical scene itself, but it was a rather more profound declaration: even though Booker thinks he's in control, he's just a passenger aboard "the boat" and he doesn't row, Elizabeth does.

Like Booker was trying to tell himself, "there was no baby", yet he got nosebleeds and got tossed around time-space like a dodgeball. The poor Booker you play really never had a wife or a child, his memory was re-written to make it so, just like how he suddently "remembered" he burnt out the Hall of Heroes with Slate in the 3rd dimension jump.

He's aboard the boat, but he doesn't row...

[Agenta]

Originally posted by Vagrant:

At the very beginning of the game, on the boat, Brother Luttece has a conversation with his Sister, telling her that Booker isn't the one that's rowing the boat.

At first, I thought he was really just talking about the rather comical scene itself, but it was a rather more profound declaration: even though Booker thinks he's in control, he's just a passenger aboard "the boat" and he doesn't row, Elizabeth does.

Like Booker was trying to tell himself, "there was no baby", yet he got nosebleeds and got tossed around time-space like a dodgeball. The poor Booker you play really never had a wife or a child, his memory was re-written to make it so, just like how he suddently "remembered" he burnt out the Hall of Heroes with Slate in the 3rd dimension jump.

He's aboard the boat, but he doesn't row...

That's also because, for EVERY SINGLE Booker that went through that scene, as in all 124 of them (I think it's that. Count the tallys on the heads/tails board near the beginning), Robert Lutece rowed the boat. That scene has a lot going on it as well. Take a look at a youtube channel called Gameological Dig, his first and second video for A Tale of Two Cities have some interesting notes on this game.

[Vagrant]

Originally posted by SSAgenta1999:

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It's still Elizabeth's fault. Without her, the Luttece would have never created the dimension crossing machine, or get scattered accross time-space by Fink's sabotage.

Booker doesn't row, and neither does the Lutteces.

[Solarmech]

That's an interesting theory Vagrant. It's totaly wrong, but interesting. Booker's memory got screwed up when he walked through the Tear the Lutecs had created to Columbia. It's actually the first forshadowing in the game:

“The mind of the subject will desperately struggle to create memories where none exist…” ― R. Lutece, Barriers to Trans-Dimensional Travel, 1889

Booker had a wife (Ken Levine tweeted her name as Annabele) and their child was Anna. That is why Booker has an "AD" brand on the back of his had. To force himself to confront what he did to Anna every day of his life.

As for blaming Elizabeth, that utter and you know it. Comstock is the one who paided the Luteces for the Tear Machine to be built so he could take Anna from Booker. Comstock is the one who is the most to blame and it's really a sick way of thinking to shift the blame onto the victim rather than the person who is actually guilty (Comstock). sm

[Vagrant]

Yet with no Elizabeth, the tech cannot exist, and thus the Lutteces and Comstock can't either.

I mean cmon. How do you just forget you had a daugther at all in the first place? THAT'S the BS part.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Vagrant:

Yet with no Elizabeth, the tech cannot exist, and thus the Lutteces and Comstock can't either.

I mean cmon. How do you just forget you had a daugther at all in the first place? THAT'S the BS part.

Lutece created the dimension hopping machine first. THEN Elizabeth got her powers.

[Solarmech]

Originally posted by Vagrant:

Yet with no Elizabeth, the tech cannot exist, and thus the Lutteces and Comstock can't either.

As Seamus pointed out the Luteces created the Tear Machine before Elizabeth got her powers. In fact the reason Elizabeth got her powers is because her little finger got chopped off by a Tear created by the Luteces device. Did you even play the game?

Originally posted by Vagrant:

I mean cmon. How do you just forget you had a daugther at all in the first place? THAT'S the BS part.

Wow, you really are clueless aren't you? Booker had a form of Amnisia (A form of represed memory) due to passing through a Tear and his mind not being able to handle the information overload/conflicgin memories. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesia "Amnesia is a deficit in memory caused by brain damage, disease, or psychological trauma."

After going through a Tear once (and the person suriving) the mind learns how to protect itself better. sm