Infinity ruined Bioshocks legacy

[Heresy]

The first Bioshock is one of the most memorable exciting action/adventure fps games i have ever played. It exceeded Half-Life and Half-Life 2 which where the greatest games i had played before Bioschock.

Bioshock 2 simply gave us more of the exact formula that made the origional game a gem. I look at Bioshock 2 as basically an expansion or DLC for the first game. The two games are almost identical from a gameplay, setting and exploring perspective.

However im not here to talk about how good the first two games are because anyone who has played them understands.

Bioshock Infinite is some of the worst regression i have ever seen in a video game. The setting, the story, the combat, the enemies, the rails, the equipment are all drastically worse than the first two games. It used modern day political themes and trends for its story, It dumbed down enemy AI and combat to handicaped levels of simplicity.

I could digress into just how bad the combat and exploration is ( which is essential to a good FPS game). I could explain how its themes of racism and politics directly relate to modern struggles and how these themes where used to evoke some kind of reason but honestly ♥♥♥♥ that noise.( lol repressed blacks)

It should have never happened and i understand now why the company imploaded after its release out of pure shame.

I dont know if people agree with me on this matter and i dont really care but for a garbage game to get a 96% rating on metacritic and endless praise by people who dont even know wtf bioshock is says it all...

Any source of information we recieve in this current age is either biased or a lie. The only way to understand is to see for yourself.

This is one of the many great series ruined by casual accessability for the masses. It is pure regression in every form for the sake of a larger audience.

Ive watched my favorite gaming companies go from developers who put their hearts and souls into their projects to greedy corporations who dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about gaming. Just like Blizzard and just like Valve, Irrational games followed the same path.

I fear we are at a point of no return and ill be looking to smaller private developers such as kickstarts and appealing projects if i want any sort of real game released after 2008. As a gamer who thrives on oldschool single player fps games, I have never been this dissapointed about a release from a series and company i respected. The ratings and reception the game recieved at birth are either 100% fake or payed for and anyone who calls themself a gamer should forever scapegoat the trash that is Bioshock Infinite as the perfect example of casual regression for the masses because of greed.

[Pio pio troski]

your problem is that you just dont like it, we do. Ppl like difrent things, Now gtfo and stop looking for attention

[Heresy]

-There is essentially no exploration involved in the game at all. No secrets, no doors to open. Literally nothing.

-The level design is painfully linear to the point where they just made some small battle arenas connected by one path yellow brick roads.

-The enemies in the game consist of mindless hulks and robots that have no brains. They dont flank you like they did in the first game or even strafe (which worked pretty damn good for splicers).

-The weapons are extremely bland psuedo future guns that we have seen in every other "futuristic" game. (hand cannon, grenade launchers lol)

-Psi powers are given to you on alters at the exact moment you need them in the story......

-The replay value is none since there are no choices to make or different directions or builds to try.

-Anything different about the combat in this game such as the spawned things by Elizabeth or the Rails make the game easier. The AI cant even abuse the rails.

-Ontop of that you have all the problems i wrote about the story itself. I understand the story but i feel like it was manufactured directly towards modern youth and tries to enforce their SJW ways.

GG.

[Pio pio troski]

I goona say it last time, you dont like it and you dont have to, we like it. Ppl like difrent things so GTFO and stop looking for attention. Are u retarded? If you dont like it so much why u post 2000 words essay every page? stop barking

[Heresy]

Stop drawing attention to yourself mr. "THis R the Bestest game Plot in All of gaming"

That review alone just makes me feel sorry for you.

The only reason you think you like it is because the critics told you it was a 96% game and you prob payed $80.

[Pio pio troski]

Never ever saw single game review + I payed about 5$. Thats all for u, go cry on another forum

[Heresy]

yeah but your review says it all. Its actually amazing and ironic as ♥♥♥♥ lmao

[Pio pio troski]

people like different things, if you can't understand it then or you are retarded or you are 10 and mad cuz one game is not like you wanted it to be. I like it. I do not play often single player games so for me it was the best. no idea why cant you understand so simply things

[Heresy]

thats my problem Troski.... the majority of the world likes stupid things. If only i could teach them.

[Pio pio troski]

well here we go again, retarded femenist. You know what? Im muting this ♥♥♥♥. you are too stupid to even try argue with. Have fun. sweet dreams.

[Heresy]

I am passionate about how much i hate this game. So either offer some arguments and try to defend "The game has R the greatest Plot of all games" or GTFO. You can add me as a friend if you want to attack me personally haha.

[lilac]

Origineel geplaatst door Heresy:

-There is essentially no exploration involved in the game at all. No secrets, no doors to open. Literally nothing.

-The level design is painfully linear to the point where they just made some small battle arenas connected by one path yellow brick roads.

-The enemies in the game consist of mindless hulks and robots that have no brains. They dont flank you like they did in the first game or even strafe (which worked pretty damn good for splicers).

-The weapons are extremely bland psuedo future guns that we have seen in every other "futuristic" game. (hand cannon, grenade launchers lol)

-Psi powers are given to you on alters at the exact moment you need them in the story......

-The replay value is none since there are no choices to make or different directions or builds to try.

-Anything different about the combat in this game such as the spawned things by Elizabeth or the Rails make the game easier. The AI cant even abuse the rails.

-Ontop of that you have all the problems i wrote about the story itself. I understand the story but i feel like it was manufactured directly towards modern youth and tries to enforce their SJW ways.

GG.

-not all games are bad for being linear
-not all games are bad for being linear
-ok
-the guns in bioshock one were also quite bland and nobody cared
- same as all the other bioshock games
- if you like the gameplay then there is
- turn up the difficulty or you know, dont use her power??
-were

[Ivlichnov]

Bioshock Infinite is an odd game, there is some really interesting stuff in Infinite, but also the gameplay mechanics have been massively simplified, when compared to the previous Bioshock games.

Spoilers ahead
I think that the fact that there is a linear path from beginning to end is a nod to the storyline of the game. It is another hint about the nature of the multiverse.

Also, with the two gun limit, the game asks “which two guns did your branching version of Booker choose, as he travelled through the game?”

As for the legacy that this game leaves, it suggests that all ‘Shock games take place in the same Infinite Multiverse, where things are always different but the same. See also the Thief and Dishonored games.

Spoilers for System Shock 2.
And Bioshock Infinite is set 200 years before System Shock 2.

[Spills51]

I honestly agree with alot of points you make.
The whole racist angle just felt LAZY to me. Its an easy way to try and grab emotion from people with little thought.
I do think the game is ok. I would of given it a 6 outta 10.
I wasnt really a fan of the twist either. Again it felt lazy.
If you do the whole different universe deal then you can literally fit any narrative you want.
That doesnt really sound like an amazing ending.
The combat was "Meh". Move a bit and fight. Rinse/repeat.
To be fair though...This game was going to be compared to one of the best games ever made and was at a disadvantage from the door.
A game is more than the sum of its parts but many of those parts just fell short to me.
Anyway, I think a pretty big group feel the game got a better score then it deserved.
At the same time though it was worth a playthrough to me.
Dont see myself going at it again though.
The combat just began to be to repetitive and now knowing the story there just isnt any reason to go back.
Graphics were decent at least and I did enjoy the last bit of combat with the ships.
The rest I could of taken a pass.
As far as the Merica thing...yea I agree.
People are out of there mind as it is and things that are completely justified are somehow turned racist by a bunch of nutters right now. Not the games fault mind you.
Just, the subject is an easy target and gets lame.

[Cali Ghost]

Origineel geplaatst door Solarmech:

Origineel geplaatst door Bill the Butcher:

But in modern society this SJW narrative is definitely rampant, where white = inherently evil etc.

Which means you missed a major point in the game. EVERYBODY can be evil depending on the choices they made. This is personified by Booker and Comstock. One is a racist genocidal moster and the other is a guilt ridden man who is trying to be better person than he was even if he doen't realize it.

The Founders are bastards and so are the Vox. The Founders imprison, torture and kill to keep power. The Vox slaughter helpless people and had every indication of going Pol Pot on Columbia. (If you don't know who Pol Pot was you need to study more history, but here is a short verions of what he did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge_Killing_Fields )

As the song goes "Nobody's right when everybody's wrong." ( Buffalo Springfield "For What It's Worth" 1967) And it as true in BioShock Infinite and it was in the original BioShock. sm

This. +1

[pizzaboner69]

Oh boi, the original post is the defintion of making mountain of molehill coupled with utter ignorance and lack of understanding about narrative.
I have played all three games and Bioshock Infinite has the best plot out of both games in the series.

It is extremely annoying when people pretend unfounded discrimination doesn't exist in current society. Hate to break it to you but it is very real, even though it is diminishing, it still exists.
This is ignorant of you.
Bioshock Infinite has themes of racism because it is a prequel to Bioshock hence, the period of 1940s.
OFCOURSE racism will be there as it was literally sanctioned by governemnts throughout the world.

Side note: Feminism is a good thing, modern day feminism at times is cancerous but you are ignorant if you don't think discrimination based on sex does not exist even in a country like U.S.
Sexism goes both ways.

This is one of the most uneducated text I have read regarding Bioshock vs. Bioshock Infinite debate which will never end.
Literally the only problem you have with Bioshock Infinite is because it shows that a lot of white people were racist in 1940s and it somehow hurts your pride lol.

Bioshock Infinite is an amazing game, albiet not perfect.
I am sorry you hate racism, so much to the point where you have become delusional and pretend it never happened.

You don't like Bioshock Infinite because it potrays something terrible, which breaks your deluded world you have created, and it just happens to have released in 2013 and not in 2007 where I asume your nostalgia exists.
The text is utterly pathetic, ignorant, toxic and you are clearly uneducated.



EDIT: It set in 1912 and not 1940s my bad. Also, I think both Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite have their pros and cons, both of them are amazing video-games.