(Spoilers) Burial at Sea and the Rapture Continuity (Spoilers)

[Hellblazer]

I've been replaying Burial at Sea and I noticed something: It kinda throws out the continuity established by the Rapture prequel novel and 2. While nothing technically contradicts the novel per se, it seems odd that the novel would never mention plot elements such as Fontaine's Department Store and how Atlas and his goons were trapped inside until New Years or that there were drinkable Plasmids and Eve bottles (not to mention Plasmids such as Bucking Bronco and Possession that are apparently never mentioned or heard of after the Civil War starts), but stuff like that can be reconciled. What doesn't make sense to me is that BioShock 2 states that Delta and Eleanor were the first Big Daddy and Little Sister to be pair-bonded, yet in BaS: Episode 2 it's shown that the Big Daddy Elizabeth helps in Suchong's lab at the end is the first one to be imprinted on the Little Sisters (or maybe it was the other way?) and Suchong says before he dies that he can't perfect the pair-bond and in 2 it's established the Suchong died prior to the creation of the Alpha Big Daddies, yet the introduction to 2 shows Delta dying on New Years Eve. And I'm not completely sold on 2 being rendered non-canon completely because in the area where you get Old Man Winter in Episode 2 there is a couple of pictures of the Adonis Resort as a possible target for the New Years attack. Is this a continuity error, or are they deliberatly trying to decanonize 2?

[Solarmech]

BaS flat out ignored the Rapture novel and there are direct contradictions (You can find them here: http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock:_Rapture_(Novel) ) As for BioShock 2 my opinion is that Levine does not consider it part of his concept of Rapture. Or he does not consider the storyline part fo his Rapture. (I am sure that Levine isn't allowed by 2K to go and just decanoniz it). There do seem to be things Levine does like about BS2 and we know he LOVED Minerva's Den. I think he liked the universe building, the things that fleshed Rapture out a little more. Along with Adonis Resorts, Dionysus Park is mentioned, but as a place of agriculture, NOT an artists retreat.

"Don't settle for tiny little fruits and vegetables. We scientifically boosted our harvests, so a single banana can feed a family of four! Come see what we mean, at the farmer's market in Dionysus Park: because bigger is better."

One of the movies shows a Rosie from BS2 and some signage is from BS2 as well. But no mention of any BS2 original character. Make of it as you will. sm

[Hellblazer]

Originally posted by Solarmech:

BaS flat out ignored the Rapture novel and there are direct contradictions (You can find them here: http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock:_Rapture_(Novel) ) As for BioShock 2 my opinion is that Levine does not consider it part of his concept of Rapture. Or he does not consider the storyline part fo his Rapture. (I am sure that Levine isn't allowed by 2K to go and just decanoniz it). There do seem to be things Levine does like about BS2 and we know he LOVED Minerva's Den. I think he liked the universe building, the things that fleshed Rapture out a little more. Along with Adonis Resorts, Dionysus Park is mentioned, but as a place of agriculture, NOT an artists retreat.

"Don't settle for tiny little fruits and vegetables. We scientifically boosted our harvests, so a single banana can feed a family of four! Come see what we mean, at the farmer's market in Dionysus Park: because bigger is better."

One of the movies shows a Rosie from BS2 and some signage is from BS2 as well. But no mention of any BS2 original character. Make of it as you will. sm

I suppose you're right. I forgot about the other contradictions, though for the life of me I can't remember why. I suppose we could assume that the Rapture novel and BioShock 2 occur in an alternate universe where events played out similarly, but not quite the same as in the Rapture seen in BaS. Except without the involvement of Elizabeth and Tears to Columbia.

[Solarmech]

That's a good way to look at it. Levine has stated that the Rapture in BaS is "Rapture Prime". I recall reading that the makers of BS2 really wanted to make their own city rather that going back to Rapture. But time constraints and 2K forced them back there. I would have liked to have seen what they would have came up with. sm

[Hellblazer]

Originally posted by Solarmech:

That's a good way to look at it. Levine has stated that the Rapture in BaS is "Rapture Prime". I recall reading that the makers of BS2 really wanted to make their own city rather that going back to Rapture. But time constraints and 2K forced them back there. I would have liked to have seen what they would have came up with. sm

That could have been very interesting. I do understand why 2K made them go back to Rapture though, at least from a business standpoint. I guess they tried to capoture lightning in a bottle twice. 2, to me at least, is one of those Awesome But Unnecessary games, like Fallout: Tactics or Batman: Arkham Origins.

[Spaghetti God]

Go look at the end of 3 one of the things said does match with bioshock 2 completely. Freedom of the little sisetrs happens in 2 not one making number 3 match number 2. You also forgot the characters are the really along the same path merciful daughters who kil their father.

bioshock 3 set the events for bioshock 1&2 hints only 1 light house instead of thousands, so game order is 3,1,2 if you want to know about the whole game plot.

Witcher did the same theme the first game is the last game and the second is the first game and the third is the second game.

This theory is true if you look up the events in order cause it time based multi-verse so it harder to put them in the right order

Many other characters match the other ones in the same roles.

Only time you can count the book is if it 100% related to the book.