Leon vs Claire scenario and game play

[icepurple]

I recently started a new play trough (after a few years since the first run with Leon A) as Claire A.

I still have some memories here and there of my first scenario clearing, about 4 years ago. and I remembered it being a bit challenging as Leon A.

The second time around, while I'm halfway in the game with Claire A, I begin to realize that something is OFF.

To being with, Mr.X doesn't chase me as hard as I was with Leon the first time around. Sure thing, I'm careful not to use NOISY weapons to not give away my location to Mr.X, and that certainly plays its part. But i'm still puzzedled by the fact that at often he really seem not to be around at all.

Everything became much clearer, once I begun scenario B with Leon.
From the get go, you realize that Leon's one is far harder compared to Claire.
From the weapons at his disposal, to the amount of supply you can find, from the constant chase that Mr.X gives to him. Yes, for some reasons, on Leon scenario, Mr.X is somehow always around the corner, and the fact that you don't have any silent weapon, except the knife makes me wonder, WHY?

Why one character gets it harder than the other? Cause she is a female, and supposedly be played by that gender?

Your guess is as good as mine.

Still, it begs the question, why Claire's run was made easier, maybe too easy i would say?

[Narrowmind]

Despite the prevalence of woke today, I couldn't ever say that about Re2, but it tends to be a habit for the early games the girl gets the easier play, for whatever reason. Jill got the lockpick with a free slot, extra inventory space, and free sandwich salvation with Barry. Chris has smaller inventory, no lockpick, but has to spend his fewer slots on carrying around keys, and doesn't get saved by anyone when triggering deadly traps.

Regardless, the player today may disagree. The shotgun can make many encounters easy, and Claire doesn't have access to that.

[icepurple]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Regardless, the player today may disagree. The shotgun can make many encounters easy, and Claire doesn't have access to that.

Claire has the OP Long Range, Grenade Launcher, which 1 to 2 shoot a Licker. Leon's shotgun doesn't two shoot a Licker, neither 3 shoots (short range). More likely u die if u try to kill a Licker with that.

Claire's semi-revolver pistol has higher chance to pop Zombie's head than leons standard pistols Matilda/M19. Maybe due to the higher amount of bullets at disposal to Claire, the rate of head kill pend to her favor.

Leon's has 3 pistols, 1 is completely useless (Matilda), and the decent one, M19, its ammo's can't be crafted, only looted. The magnum, which is paired with Claire's UZI is a decent one, but with very limited usage, since u keep crafting for the shotgun.

We may argue that the Flame Thrower is better than the Taser in most cases, but that's near endgame and does not make justice enough to me.

Leon's also wear some sort of Police armor suit, and yet his health drop as as much as Cleaire when he gets hit. He does not dodge better, nor has more efficiency with his weapons when shooting. If there is any difference, i did not notice it.

[Narrowmind]

I disagree with much of what you said. Sorry you had trouble.

[deidian]

After playing a while with the game if you know the weapons both are equally powerful against everything. Sure some methods aren't the same, but the end result is.

[icepurple]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

I disagree with much of what you said. Sorry you had trouble.

I'm not having, as you put it, "troubles".

I wish Capcom would have polished some more the game play in the remake, especially after 4 years of patches. There are some lazy recycling around on B scenario, like same keys, same pass codes, or puzzles. Scenario A gets an S, scenario B gets a D.

[Duke Leto Atreides]

Mr. X appears sooner in the B scenario for both characters. Of course, if you play Claire A and then Leon B, you'll get the impression that Mr. X goes harder on Leon. Go back to Leon A and you'll realise how easy it was 4 years ago.

[Narrowmind]

Originally posted by icepurple:

I'm not having, as you put it, "troubles".

It sounded like troubles to me because you mentioned killing lickers. Claire has more lickers than Leon does, and it's more likely that Claire will have to fight them. Alternatively, Leon has dogs, and guess what weapon is stronger against dogs? That's right, the shotgun.

As for handguns, you called Matilda useless, and yet, I guess I'm one of the few that never created the shotgun shells, saving all my powder for the magnum. In other words, I didn't think the Matilda worthless when it came to fighting William 3. All of that extra handgun ammo was spent well fighting with it there.

In my runs, I didn't bother with either of the bottom waterway weapons, due to the inventory limits. I've seen an alternate route since then that will allow more space, so next time, maybe I will consider grabbing them, but normally, I didn't need that firepower, but I see that others that have troubles did, to be able to complain about their choice to grab them later.

Leon does have a larger hit box than Claire, and she does move faster than Leon, especially with caution status. Alright.

I'm sorry Leon's armor didn't protect you well enough. Claire has more chest meat, but it doesn't give her anymore durability than Leon, either. Sad.

All of this doesn't make Claire better or easier than Leon. It's just different.

The fact that they're different doesn't indicate gender bias here.

[Seamus]

And here we have an OP who doesn't understand that the gameplay balance between A route and B route is different regardless of who you pick.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by icepurple:

Claire's semi-revolver pistol has higher chance to pop Zombie's head than leons standard pistols Matilda/M19.

Wrong. Matilda and the m19 both have higher crit chance than Claire's revolver.

Maybe due to the higher amount of bullets at disposal to Claire, the rate of head kill pend to her favor.

Both runs have the same amount of ammo available.

Leon's has 3 pistols, 1 is completely useless (Matilda),

Only if you don't know how to use it.

and the decent one, M19, its ammo's can't be crafted, only looted. The magnum, which is paired with Claire's UZI is a decent one, but with very limited usage, since u keep crafting for the shotgun.

Or you could craft magnum rounds and learn to use matilda and the knife properly.

Leon's also wear some sort of Police armor suit, and yet his health drop as as much as Cleaire when he gets hit. He does not dodge better, nor has more efficiency with his weapons when shooting. If there is any difference, i did not notice it.

And?

Seriously, everything you've posted so far is either you being wrong, misunderstanding things or apparently wanting leon to be an easy mode with less damage taken because... reasons?

[deidian]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Leon does have a larger hit box than Claire, and she does move faster than Leon, especially with caution status. Alright.

Idk about exact hit boxes: in my experience the same dodges that work for Claire work for Leon too.

They move equally faster, except for Claire running in caution status. IIRC exact speed values are 3.1(running fine) and 3.3(running caution), so she gains a 6.66% running speed when in caution instead of losing. It doesn't really make sense: caution should make the character slower, probably a "feature" but since is non game breaking...

[Narrowmind]

I'm not digging into specific stats, but I have heard and read it before. Doesn't mean that their claims are accurate, but I was trying to give him some credit and add merit to his words, since the rest was spurious at best.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

I'm not digging into specific stats, but I have heard and read it before. Doesn't mean that their claims are accurate, but I was trying to give him some credit and add merit to his words, since the rest was spurious at best.

There's a google doc with the info in it in the guides section.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1759950592

There's several bits of weirdness with movement speed. Leon is faster running up stairs in danger than claire is for example.

[Narrowmind]

Again, you come through to address my ignorance, and again I offer my thanks.

I will surely give it a glance.

Thank you.

[Seamus]

Just providing a useful link to contrast OP's ignorance.

[icepurple]

Originally posted by Seamus:

And here we have an OP who doesn't understand that the gameplay balance between A route and B route is different regardless of who you pick.

Somebody here is either trolling or lack of basic math, or both.

Claire has 1 pistol, for which all gunpowder can be crafted ammo, and even looted ammo. Leon does not.

WHEN CLAIRE loots ammo, she get 12 (or 15?!) round for pistol, LEON GET 3!

All the residual gunpowder looted in Claire's run can be used to craft more pistol's ammo due to scarcity of high gunpowder.

As I pointed out earlier, M19 bullets can only be looted, not crafted.

On the other hand Matilda ammo can only be crafted, not looted. Which means, you have less ammo for both matilda/m19 in the end, cause of shotgun and because u loot only 3 ammo for each gun.

Damn, even the uzi loots 50 ammo each collect lol.

So no, sorry, Claire gets more ammo, period.

Where did you read that both character gets same amount of ammo? Did you even played the game once?