Re2 Remake Randomizer

[LethalLegendK]

So i was messing with the Randomizer for this game on Claire's B route Standard difficulty. It seems if the Lover's Relief aka Heart Key spawns on the rooftop, this is an unwinnable situation right?

Claire can't descend the ladder onto the rooftop until After the the G1 boss. But if she clears G1, Claire is locked behind the Heart Key door in the police chief room. Claire can't go back down the sewers because she does not have access to the basement door that leads out to the West wing Hallway like Leon does.

Am I missing something or is this an unwinnable seed?

[Velarune]

Apparently Benn patched that problem in August. I just came back to this game, and have tried to do two different Claire B scenarios with both ending the same way. I can run around all over on the west side of the station, but I'm stuck. The heart key isn't even in the game according to the cheat sheets supplied, and any other item to open the pathways is in another area.

So either people haven't been noticing this problem over the past month, or I'm somehow missing something even though the map is cleared of all the items I have access to.

[Tyler]

I'm sure there's a forum or Discord server likely to more helpful than here. Not saying you shouldn't post. Just offering a suggestion.

[Velarune]

Just talking in general. Not looking for help. Already reported the problem to Benn.

[LethalLegendK]

Originally posted by Velarune:

Apparently Benn patched that problem in August. I just came back to this game, and have tried to do two different Claire B scenarios with both ending the same way. I can run around all over on the west side of the station, but I'm stuck. The heart key isn't even in the game according to the cheat sheets supplied, and any other item to open the pathways is in another area.

So either people haven't been noticing this problem over the past month, or I'm somehow missing something even though the map is cleared of all the items I have access to.

The Heart Key exists in the cheat sheets but its called Lover's Relief. you get the key after examining the Lover's Relief.

and yeah this probably had something to do with the logic being used in the randomizer. The easy fix would be to NOT let the Lover's Relief spawn on the rooftop. If that's not possible, then maybe let the lover's relief spawn in the G1 fight similar to how the diamond key always spawns in the G1 fight.

Funny thing to point out is that after 6+ runs on Claire B (with and without mixing weapon sets) I would ALWAYS find the square crank and use it. Which is funny since that is totally optional for Claire and you wouldn't even get it in a normal run.

[Velarune]

I realized my mistake after. It's been like a year and a half since I've played this game, so I forgot that the key was in the Lover's Relief thing. But even still, that Relief spawned in the firing range. The spade key spawned in the dark room, and the fuse is in the G1 boss room. So it was an unbeatable seed, and that happened twice in a row.

I've found that also, where there seems to be set items that are always found. Seems weird that it is set up that way. This game is just extremely weird with it's triggers for things though. Like not being able to open the fence gate to the orphanage unless you beat the G1 fight. You can open the garage gate, and do everything else, but they draw the line at the fence next to Kendo's shop. Same thing with being able to access the clock tower, but you can't interact with anything until you reach whatever point first. It makes no sense that they programmed the game like that.