Original is overrated.

[Sharunas]

Just finished original re2 as leon a with hd mod and seamless HD mod. and i have to say it is a bit overrated since EVERY youtuber that has ever done a tier list always always puts OG re 2 at nr1 s+ tier above others. I think thats just really big nostalgia talking for them and they cant accept that the remake is better. you can even select the original soundrack in the remake theres that. What do you guys think ? I think people give too much credit for the originals cause of nostalgia and childhood.

[Narrowmind]

Disagree. I'm not one trying to say the remake is bad. After all, I put far more time on Re2r than all of the other games in the series combined, but the substance of Re2 is what people are pointing at.

If the remake of Re2r had been faithful to the original with the meshing stories, I think there'd be no question that the remake crushed it. However, I'm left to believe that the original stands on its own, because it can't be directly compared other than the graphics. The reason you may be saying the new one is better is simply because it's newer, and that's okay. But the graphics aren't going to supercede the original story for me. That actually pulls down Re2r, simply because it comes across as laziness, where it didn't have to be that way.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Disagree. I'm not one trying to say the remake is bad. After all, I put far more time on Re2r than all of the other games in the series combined, but the substance of Re2 is what people are pointing at.

If the remake of Re2r had been faithful to the original with the meshing stories, I think there'd be no question that the remake crushed it. However, I'm left to believe that the original stands on its own, because it can't be directly compared other than the graphics. The reason you may be saying the new one is better is simply because it's newer, and that's okay. But the graphics aren't going to supercede the original story for me. That actually pulls down Re2r, simply because it comes across as laziness, where it didn't have to be that way.

yes graphics isnt everything but just look at the awkward conversations between leon and ada in the original, the dialogue is really cringy some times. sure original is a good game but it cant be better than the remake, there is no single thing that original is better in, if there is name it, like i said its mostly nostalgia.

[Narrowmind]

All the more reason that Re2r could have easily filled all those gaps. They shouldn't have cut the corners.

I still respect your perspective.

Edit

For me, I admit, it's emotinalism. I played the original when it was on two discs. I played it with a friend on a sleepover. This meant as we finished the game, there was more to experience. In this version of the game, there basically isn't. The b story is barely changed at all, so in effect, it feels like half of the game it should have been. That is why, when people think of it, they are quick to put the original on top, because half of Capcom's original effort is plainly missing. The poor quality of the actors/script doesn't change the fact that there half of the content cut.

[AEROBICIDE]

where can i play the orginal? (without a playstation console)

[Salander]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

I still respect your perspective.

You shouldn't and let me try to explain why: this guy is actively making threads in various RE sub-forums, trying to criticize the most minimal of things to fetch for awards and the reasons behind his opinions are always VERY vague.

He said that the REmake is supposedly impossible to complete in under 100 hours (yet he doesn't own the game), that people who liked RE5 are fake fans (and that the game is impossible to beat with the ammo available) and in here trash talk the ones who simply like the original ("I think thats just really big nostalgia talking for them and they cant accept that the remake is better").

Don't feed the troll, please.

[Narrowmind]

Thank you.

[Dryspace]

You have to give your specific reasons for your position. I have seen many times a person claim that an older game is not good, but in fact the problems were the result of playing on much later HW, or OS, or GPU drivers, etc., so that the game had issues that don't exist on the original system specs.

Everything ran fine, then? By the way --- you should not have used the "HD" mods. For one, if you want to experience a game, you should experience the game and not an altered version. Second, these kind of "HD" mods pretty much never actually improve anything, and usually just the opposite.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by AEROBICiDE:

where can i play the orginal? (without a playstation console)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCm33e2VOqQ here is the guide for pc and you will get seamless HD visuals not that pixalated mess.
also download the game form ,,Google the following: "Download Biohazard 2 Sourcenext Internet Archive"
Press enter and click on the first link that appears.'' This works 100%.

[Punished Eric]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by AEROBICiDE:

where can i play the orginal? (without a playstation console)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCm33e2VOqQ here is the guide for pc and you will get seamless HD visuals not that pixalated mess.
also download the game form ,,Google the following: "Download Biohazard 2 Sourcenext Internet Archive"
Press enter and click on the first link that appears.'' This works 100%.

I think the ps1 game looks better. When you clean up all the texture warp and the jagged edges the game looks incredibly bare.

[AEROBICIDE]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by AEROBICiDE:

where can i play the orginal? (without a playstation console)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCm33e2VOqQ here is the guide for pc and you will get seamless HD visuals not that pixalated mess.
also download the game form ,,Google the following: "Download Biohazard 2 Sourcenext Internet Archive"
Press enter and click on the first link that appears.'' This works 100%.

thx will try it out

[Space]

You had to be there. Also congrats on the 2 day ban speedrun any%

[finlandslim]

No, original is not "overrated", otherwise it wouldn't have gotten a remake 20 years later.

Remake, while overall a good game, as a remake of RE2 failed quite badly. They didn't manage to recreate the biggest feature of og in the form of scenario system. They also butchered personalities and motivation of the characters. The new dialogue is sanitized and and voice acting is somehow worse than the original.

Other than that level design takes a note dive after the police station with NEST feeling unrealistic and too clean.

https://youtu.be/gFGDvXnrTSI?si=CpmQu--NDX0KJ128

Here's a great analysis on why it fails.

[✪★☭☣ Your enemy]

Originally posted by Piggod:

No, original is not "overrated", otherwise it wouldn't have gotten a remake 20 years later.

Remake, while overall a good game, as a remake of RE2 failed quite badly. They didn't manage to recreate the biggest feature of og in the form of scenario system. They also butchered personalities and motivation of the characters. The new dialogue is sanitized and and voice acting is somehow worse than the original.

Other than that level design takes a note dive after the police station with NEST feeling unrealistic and too clean.

https://youtu.be/gFGDvXnrTSI?si=CpmQu--NDX0KJ128

Here's a great analysis on why it fails.

Do you know why the original deleted?

[finlandslim]

Originally posted by ✪★☭☣ Your enemy:

Originally posted by Piggod:

No, original is not "overrated", otherwise it wouldn't have gotten a remake 20 years later.

Remake, while overall a good game, as a remake of RE2 failed quite badly. They didn't manage to recreate the biggest feature of og in the form of scenario system. They also butchered personalities and motivation of the characters. The new dialogue is sanitized and and voice acting is somehow worse than the original.

Other than that level design takes a note dive after the police station with NEST feeling unrealistic and too clean.

https://youtu.be/gFGDvXnrTSI?si=CpmQu--NDX0KJ128

Here's a great analysis on why it fails.

Do you know why the original deleted?

She got harassed by remake deranged fanboys.

[Salander]

Ugh, that's a shame... I usually visit the RE's sub-reddit and no one can't criticize any of the remakes (or RE7/Village) freely. There's this sort of "consensus" among the fandom that new = perfection when in reality that's never the case and makes for some pretty shallow discussions: you either praise it or be downvoted, insulted or harassed (in the case of the author of that video) to oblivion.

I personally think the RE2R is a pretty good game, but I'm still having a hard time getting into it because of how the gameplay feels for me (I prefer more "tighter" controls) and how durable the zombies are. I know this last thing was made on purpose but I prefer when things don't survive 9 shots to the head lol.