Resident Evil 2

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BigV419 Jan 13, 2019 @ 3:57am
So why is Leons backstory being retconned now?
Leon got called a week before the outbreak to stay away from the police station now? why is this all being retconned? he was supposed to have left his girlfriend and gotten drunk and missed his first day? thing with him getting drunk and missing his first shift is why he was not involved with the outbreak siege on the on the city and subsequently the Police station and didn't die with a lot of the rest of the police force, had he been there he would have been on the front lines of the whole mess for sure. he was able to avoid all of that and come in later and save the day. meh.. retconing is annoying sometimes
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Milkless Tea Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:06am 
Does it matter
BigV419 Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:18am 
the thing is him losing his girlfriend and getting drunk and missing the first day, this is something we can all relate too, this is something that grounds him and makes him more human. people are all human and all people make mistakes, and this was a mistake he made and one of his first character defining moments that better served the story as a whole. the whole franchise is about his decisions and the mistakes he makes and how he has to live with all those mistakes and over come them. he was able to come back and save the day in the end like I said. now it's like how and why did they tell him that to stay away a whole week before the inccedent? for what reason? what is going on? this asks more questions I'm sure will never be answered now?
Final Fight Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:21am 
Actually Leon made a wrong turn and spend a week in Badger City...
Lanzagranadas Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:49am 
Because the whole "drunk because of girlfriend" thing was just a stupid post-RE2 made up excuse to justify why he arrives for his job at night, and didn't fit Leon's character well. Either way, it was something irrelevant for the plot.

I'm quite against arbitrary plot changes that could potentially screw the series timeline even more, but in this case this change does actually make things more convincing without breaking anything.
Last edited by Lanzagranadas; Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:50am
Dayve Jan 13, 2019 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by holychair:
For what it's worth, even though I have played through the original game countless of times, I didn't even know about the "girlfriend" and "drunk" thing until recently as it wasn't info given in the game itself, but seemingly only in a Q&A section of the guidebook (which I didn't have). Frankly, I don't think it's essential and it even looks like something Hideki Kamiya made up on the fly when presented with that question.

Me too. I played through Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 at least 10 times each in the 90's when they released (seriously, I loved those games so much) and I didn't hear about Leon's break up think until around 3 days ago in a Youtube video.

But maybe Capcom are trying to clean up the general story arc of the Resident Evil franchise.

I don't know if any of you have noticed but after RE3 the story got really, really, really, ridiculously stupid. The first 3 games were somewhat believable science fiction (it's not totally unbelievable for a virus to turn people into zombies and it's not totally unbelievable that an outrageously rich corporation with military ties would try to weaponize it).

Then after 3 it gets stupid, with Wesker becoming a teleporting comic book villain with red eyes, Chris punching boulders into lava and whatnot...
Griever Jan 13, 2019 @ 5:27am 
Lmao when the hell was "Leon getting drunk and losing his girlfriend and missing his first day" canon?

I remember clearly playing the original RE2 that when Racoon city outbreak happens, it's supposed to be his first day. Leon is a choir boy he wouldnt "get drunk and lose his girlfriend" and above all miss his first day due to so shameful behavior lmao.

I actually like the horrible irony of this. Being the first day means he survived because had he started earlier he would have been killed inside Raccoon city like all other officers who initially had to face the zombies.
Dayve Jan 13, 2019 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by Sarge6000:
Lmao when the hell was "Leon getting drunk and losing his girlfriend and missing his first day" canon?

I remember clearly playing the original RE2 that when Racoon city outbreak happens, it's supposed to be his first day. Leon is a choir boy he wouldnt "get drunk and lose his girlfriend" and above all miss his first day due to so shameful behavior lmao.

I actually like the horrible irony of this. Being the first day means he survived because had he started earlier he would have been killed inside Raccoon city like all other officers who initially had to face the zombies.

I don't think he got drunk and lost his girlfriend, I think he got drunk BECAUSE he lost his girlfriend.
Lanzagranadas Jan 13, 2019 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Sarge6000:
Lmao when the hell was "Leon getting drunk and losing his girlfriend and missing his first day" canon?

It was never explained in the game, but it's in the Biohazard 2 Official Guide Book:
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/BIOHAZARD-2-Official-Guide-Book

Q6. Why was Leon wearing the Raccoon police uniform before he arrived at his post?

A6. I'll tell you about Leon before he came to Raccoon City...
Recently bizarre incidents have been occurring in Raccoon, a country town unfamiliar with such bizarre cases; Leon graduated from the police academy and with his strong sense of justice, he was very interested in them and immediately decided to be assigned to the Raccoon Police Department.
Needless to say, he was to be assigned to such service starting from the morning that day, but when he was leaving the place where he had lived until then, he broke up with his girlfriend and a great uproar happened from the separation, so his move became overdue (they seem to have finally separated in the end...).
Eventually, while his new address had yet to be decided, Leon drove to Raccoon City all through the night the day before he was to assume his post. However, along the way at a motel, Leon was rowdy and began drinking. He got helplessly drunk and by the time he woke up it was already the early afternoon! (He seems irresponsible, but you could say what disturbs his mind is Leon's faithfulness to women)
Leon panicked, ran out and also attempted to communicate with the Raccoon Police Department several times along the way, but there was no response.
"At this rate I'll reach Raccoon in the middle of the night... Oh well, if I'm late, it'll be the same night and day till I'm there."
Leon drove his car over the rhythm in tune with his favorite music playing from the car stereo. The highway extended straight ahead eerily rising in the setting sun's illumination, and the crimson Arklay Mountains towered...
...Basically he changed into the uniform he was supplied in the motel.
BigV419 Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:08am 
him loseing his girlfrend and getting drunk also shows his timmidness and uncertianty when it comes to woman, and is why Ada is so easily able to take advantage of him
Metadragon Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by holychair:
For what it's worth, even though I have played through the original game countless of times, I didn't even know about the "girlfriend" and "drunk" thing until recently as it wasn't info given in the game itself, but seemingly only in a Q&A section of the guidebook (which I didn't have). Frankly, I don't think it's essential and it even looks like something Hideki Kamiya made up on the fly when presented with that question.
This is or rather was a common practice in Japanese media. Hell for the longest time there was a LOT of detail about games like Final Fantasy that you only found in teriary material outside the game itself.

I dont agree with it but neither do i agree to arbitraily changing lore either. I think this is probably a chnge for the better tho
Griever Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
Originally posted by Sarge6000:
Lmao when the hell was "Leon getting drunk and losing his girlfriend and missing his first day" canon?

It was never explained in the game, but it's in the Biohazard 2 Official Guide Book:
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/BIOHAZARD-2-Official-Guide-Book

Q6. Why was Leon wearing the Raccoon police uniform before he arrived at his post?

A6. I'll tell you about Leon before he came to Raccoon City...
Recently bizarre incidents have been occurring in Raccoon, a country town unfamiliar with such bizarre cases; Leon graduated from the police academy and with his strong sense of justice, he was very interested in them and immediately decided to be assigned to the Raccoon Police Department.
Needless to say, he was to be assigned to such service starting from the morning that day, but when he was leaving the place where he had lived until then, he broke up with his girlfriend and a great uproar happened from the separation, so his move became overdue (they seem to have finally separated in the end...).
Eventually, while his new address had yet to be decided, Leon drove to Raccoon City all through the night the day before he was to assume his post. However, along the way at a motel, Leon was rowdy and began drinking. He got helplessly drunk and by the time he woke up it was already the early afternoon! (He seems irresponsible, but you could say what disturbs his mind is Leon's faithfulness to women)
Leon panicked, ran out and also attempted to communicate with the Raccoon Police Department several times along the way, but there was no response.
"At this rate I'll reach Raccoon in the middle of the night... Oh well, if I'm late, it'll be the same night and day till I'm there."
Leon drove his car over the rhythm in tune with his favorite music playing from the car stereo. The highway extended straight ahead eerily rising in the setting sun's illumination, and the crimson Arklay Mountains towered...
...Basically he changed into the uniform he was supplied in the motel.

Might be in "official guidebook" but original game shows absolutely no indication of that so I call it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Dayve Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by holychair:
Originally posted by BigV419:
him loseing his girlfrend and getting drunk also shows his timmidness and uncertianty when it comes to woman, and is why Ada is so easily able to take advantage of him

I don't know ... depending on how and why there was a breakup with his former girlfriend he could just as well have turned cynical and suspicious - Kamiya's story was not deep and elaborate enough to provide *that* much insight into Leon's character.

He's a 20-year old man. 20-year old men don't get cynical about women because their girlfriend broke up with them. They IMMEDIATELY begin hunting for a new one.
Metadragon Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by Dayve:
Originally posted by holychair:

I don't know ... depending on how and why there was a breakup with his former girlfriend he could just as well have turned cynical and suspicious - Kamiya's story was not deep and elaborate enough to provide *that* much insight into Leon's character.

He's a 20-year old man. 20-year old men don't get cynical about women because their girlfriend broke up with them. They IMMEDIATELY begin hunting for a new one.
Maybe in the 90s but nowadays...

:mean_creep:

Also we all played/watched Leon pine after Ada for TWO DECADES
Last edited by Metadragon; Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:21am
Dayve Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by Metadragon:
Originally posted by Dayve:

He's a 20-year old man. 20-year old men don't get cynical about women because their girlfriend broke up with them. They IMMEDIATELY begin hunting for a new one.
Maybe in the 90s but nowadays...

:mean_creep:

Male nature didn't change between 1998 and now. It is forever constant. If you're 20 and male you want it 3 times a day. Getting dumped by a girlfriend does not change this.

Maybe if Leon was 30 he would be cynical about women like I now am, and maybe he wouldn't become Ada's lapdog. But at 20? Nah.
Last edited by Dayve; Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:24am
Metadragon Jan 13, 2019 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by Dayve:
Originally posted by Metadragon:
Maybe in the 90s but nowadays...

:mean_creep:

Male nature didn't change between 1998 and now. It is forever constant. If you're 20 and male you want it 3 times a day. Getting dumped by a girlfriend does not change this.
relax man. also i edited my post showing Leon pined after Ada for nearly 2 decades. I hope he got laid in the interrum
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