why do alot people seem to REALLY hate the idea of humans and aliens working together?

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

im really excited for this standalone expansion and the approach of seeing humans and the alien species working together after all the insanity is great and its very clear that they are trying to show humans and aliens can work together so its not like the writers are saying they are all buddy buddy now

so im just confused why there seems to be alot of people who outright hate the idea the game is presenting? like ive never seen such just outright dislike for a game(that ive actively followed)

[EmperorVolo]

Originally posted by VelvetThunder:

I like how no one gave a ♥♥♥♥ about the quality of "the characters" in XCOM until they saw some brown people on the cover of the next game and now they're all having a fit

and the other group are like cavemen "but...alien bad...kill alien...alien no friend..." like you can't even begin to fathom how some of the remnant forces of Advent could become allies to Earth

There were already alien allies in WOTC

Honestly none of the complaints make sense there were just as many humans helping to suppress humanity as there were trying to help. I mean the rebel force was small. Helping fringe elements up in the mountains and where ever else. I guess people forgot they were fighting against Human Alien hybrids along with government elements and even humans themselves. The whole council gave up and allowed the aliens to move in after the successful campaign of the first Xcom. It was after this surrender that Xcom lost funding and was nearly annihilation.

Not only that but then you take into account the help alien forces gave to Xcom. Which is what is covered in War of the Chosen.

[P. Rat]

All I know is somebody got Zootopia in my XCOM and I've got the kind of reckless optimism that risking only ten dollars allows!

[Cousin Okri]

The Devs: Humans working with Xenos
My Brain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXhU9zacjzw

[Gixcaririxen]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley:

im really excited for this standalone expansion and the approach of seeing humans and the alien species working together after all the insanity is great and its very clear that they are trying to show humans and aliens can work together so its not like the writers are saying they are all buddy buddy now

so im just confused why there seems to be alot of people who outright hate the idea the game is presenting? like ive never seen such just outright dislike for a game(that ive actively followed)

I don't know why this dislike that alien and human work together maybe a lot of people not played WOTC? remember that there we have advent deserters.
Maybe they have fear that this ruin the series? (I'm not one of that people)
Maybe they want kill alien? Well that is not problem, you can do that yet.
I'm very happy that human and alien species working together (if Reapers and Skirmishers do that, there is possibility that the human and alien can do that too) and maybe we can discover more backstage about the non human

p.s. remember that any intelligent life form can have different opinion, and is a bit impossible make the personalities to each alien (maybe some alien wanted help the resistance but it was unable to do that because they are slave too).

[Orkhepaj]

Originally posted by Wraith:

For some reason people put it into their mind that there no tension between alien and humans in this short amount of time and instantly think they are best pal.

There literally a whole tension between humans and aliens that about to burst. That the whole point of this game and chimera squad will be the one to show that human and alien can work together.

One thing I hope this game goes into is dig into that tension that going on right now as chimera squad shows the world that it is possible.

Remember it is a fragile peace not some lovey mass effect setting that people keep pointing to.

I dont want to work together with aliens. That is so lame.
They invaded our planet they have to die . All of them.

[Gixcaririxen]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by Wraith:

For some reason people put it into their mind that there no tension between alien and humans in this short amount of time and instantly think they are best pal.

There literally a whole tension between humans and aliens that about to burst. That the whole point of this game and chimera squad will be the one to show that human and alien can work together.

One thing I hope this game goes into is dig into that tension that going on right now as chimera squad shows the world that it is possible.

Remember it is a fragile peace not some lovey mass effect setting that people keep pointing to.

I dont want to work together with aliens. That is so lame.
They invaded our planet they have to die . All of them.

The elder wanted to invaded our planet, now that they are killed there is not a reason to kill all alien on the planet.
Then think a bit, kill they you only set free to the pain of the life and put to nowhere, but if the alien work together with the human they can fix what the elder did to the both species (and get prepared for the new menace)

[Orkhepaj]

Originally posted by Gixcaririxen (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥):

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

I dont want to work together with aliens. That is so lame.
They invaded our planet they have to die . All of them.

The elder wanted to invaded our planet, now that they are killed there is not a reason to kill all alien on the planet.
Then think a bit, kill they you only set free to the pain of the life and put to nowhere, but if the alien work together with the human they can fix what the elder did to the both species (and get prepared for the new menace)

If they are no more controlled then they should just pack up and leave, until they remain here they will be kill on sight targets for me.
Work together for what? The only aim is to purge the aliens out from the planet to save humanity.
What new menace? Humanity will defeat that one with only humans , no need for alien "help".

[Yuriqa]

Just like all games nowadays must have black people, fat people, gays etc... or it considered racist or insult some group...

Dont get me wrong.. I am no racist or hate any people but people nowadays are just too sensitive...

[Bruno Fisto]

Originally posted by Yuriqa:

Just like all games nowadays must have black people, fat people, gays etc... or it considered racist or insult some group...

Dont get me wrong.. I am no racist or hate any people but people nowadays are just too sensitive...

You mean sensitive like crying over having aliens as allies because of percieved "fOrCEd dIveRSitY"?

Sorry to break it to you but the majority of people to not consider it racist if some popele are not represented. In fact most people don't care. There is more crying, especially in the sinkhole called steam forums, about games having representation than games not having that.

[Tripas]

Originally posted by Bruno Fisto:

Originally posted by Yuriqa:

Just like all games nowadays must have black people, fat people, gays etc... or it considered racist or insult some group...

Dont get me wrong.. I am no racist or hate any people but people nowadays are just too sensitive...

You mean sensitive like crying over having aliens as allies because of percieved "fOrCEd dIveRSitY"?

Sorry to break it to you but the majority of people to not consider it racist if some popele are not represented. In fact most people don't care. There is more crying, especially in the sinkhole called steam forums, about games having representation than games not having that.

^ Pretty much this.

[Cass]

Because some individuals are hypersensitive to anything they perceive as remotely misaligned with their personal biases, and have a desperate need to be offended about everything as a way of giving meaning to their empty, pathetic lives.

Snowflakes, if you will.

[SarahSyna]

Also, this is XCOM. You know, the game about an explicitly multi-national organisation made of people all over the world from all different cultures who literally wear their national flags on their uniforms. If you have a problem with diversity you're in the wrong series.

[Oku]

Because as is usual with these sorts of people, they’re very bad at keeping their IRL xenophobic genocide fantasies from bleeding over in to the video games they play, and the moment they have to acknowledge that a game they thought was endorsing them is in fact entirely against them through and through, they do the only thing they know how to do: get angry and whine.

[Bass Man]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by Gixcaririxen (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥):

The elder wanted to invaded our planet, now that they are killed there is not a reason to kill all alien on the planet.
Then think a bit, kill they you only set free to the pain of the life and put to nowhere, but if the alien work together with the human they can fix what the elder did to the both species (and get prepared for the new menace)

If they are no more controlled then they should just pack up and leave, until they remain here they will be kill on sight targets for me.
Work together for what? The only aim is to purge the aliens out from the planet to save humanity.
What new menace? Humanity will defeat that one with only humans , no need for alien "help".

Pack up and leave how? With what ships? And to where? The uninhabitable planets? Also, dude, this ain't 40k, chill your Slaanesh-level fetish for genocide for a bit. Besides, where were you when War Of The Chosen dropped, the DLC with an entire alien faction fighting for their freedom?

Anyways, some people have a hard time separating 40k from XCOM for some reason. They also seem to think Genocide is the answer to everything alien, when in all honesty the only time it's really justified is if you're dealing with something like the Flood from Halo. If you want that kind of thing go play something like EDF 4.1 or 5, you know, the series where there's literally no other option because the giant space aliens are bringing Kaiju and ants the size of houses, and a Dyson sphere to wreck your whole planet's ass.

Besides, what lame ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ doesn't want to have a squad of badass aliens on their side? Seriously, I'd do some crazy ♥♥♥♥ to get a Berserker and Sectopod squad and wreck shop on the Elders and their little space slavery operation they've got going on. Make like Optimus and fight for the freedom of all sentient beings, because fighting against the dark alone sucks. It's idealistic as hell, but it's too cool to pass up.

[Nylonathathep]

I also believe that EVERYONE WAS MIND CONTROLLED TO THE POINT OF ABSOLUTE SUBMISSION pretty much turns the whole advent coalition into something extremely boring.

So they were just drones? Everything is the fault of a a big bad wizard in a tower? So nothing is their fault and they are pure as virgin snow?

Pf. So boring. So shallow. So convenient.

And they were acting like mind controlled drones without people noticing? I mean that, even during the invasion, humanity established bonds with a bunch of drones? How do you put your trust in an organization where everyone is like "beep beep, boop boop, all hail the elderss durrr"? Or were they so perfect thay they were able to simulate perfect autonomy while mind controlled? How would you actually be able to trust them now, then? Just because they say they are free? If they were mind controlled how did the main sectoid guy "develop pity for mankind and started helping them"? It makes little sense.


Not to mention that the chosen looked pretty autonomous to me.

There's a huge potential to turn the advent into a smoking pile of plot rubble. We'll see how they answer those questions without resorting to massive retcons.