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Also, are our descendants Rams by the next game? They still looked like kind of a mix to me, at least going by their appearance and outfits. A little darker skinned, face shape changed a bit. But they don't look like the Rams in Ride Like the Wind. Although one has a Death rune on their adviser portrait and the Hyalorings don't yet have a Death god.
Its definitely possible to have a dark/water/fire main elemental rune via that questionnaire, but you have to be pretty wishy-washy with the questions that give storm and earth points. Its very easy to get a majority of storm, by design, but the only question that gives dark/fire/water is the one about the remnant peoples
Details are light on Heler, but we know that his worship came as part of a great confederation of the vingkotlings and his people during the great floods. It seems to imply that the two peoples were actually in a long term war but somehow not only found peace, but moved in together but we don't get a reason why.
Argan Argar though has a lot about him, and basically represents the special relationship the people of Esrolia have with the trolls of the Shadow Plateau. One of the things that helped kick off the great darkness in the region is that there was a massive kinstrife and civil war amongst the vingkotling tribe of the Kodigvari, the high king tribe at the time, called the Sword and Helm Saga. And then to make things worse, the women that stayed home are sometimes said to have butchered some of the survivors of that civil war as part of the political takeover, instituting the tradition of matriarchy in Esrolia. They set it up so that Ernalda is Queen of the gods, and her many lovers are given, at best, the title of Husband-Protector, with who that is specifically varying based on who the political establishment wants to cozy up to (its usually orlanth but not always), in the...manipulative way that Ernaldans can be sometimes, very "get those other poor bastards to fight our battles for us and we come out on top".
At the tail end of the darkness the trolls are basically the species/race who fared the best and in a lot of places humans only survive as second class citizens in troll political entities. The troll demi-god Ezkankekko (son of Argan Argar and Esrola, at least claimed so) has a fairly strong kingdom based out of the shadow plateau in the grey age and he politics his way into an overlord position over the bay area and south dragon pass by simultaneously being a troll and not a troll, so he can use his influence to claim his father as one of the Husband-Protectors that was here to defend the motherland while Orlanth was off in the underworld or fighting chaos.
Long story short, among other things Ezkankekko teaches humans to be more like trolls and trolls to be more like humans, even to the point where they can shapeshift between one form and the other. They call that tribe the Kitori and they were the favored caste in his empire for government positions like tax collectors, which caused no little strife with the local Orlanthi and eventually lead to repeated wars between the Kitori and the Heortlings. If you have a group of humans who's main male god is Argan Argar, its very likely that they have at least Kitori ancestry, though they might have fallen out from the main Nightcult.
The Grazers/Horse-Spawn are descended from the Pure Horse clans, I think. At this point the Pure Horse Clans are sort of separate from the other Riders, but it's seen as "this is a form of religious devotion that some Rider clans in every large group of clans are going to go for" rather than a separate culture. They still intermarry with other clans, and I think technically clans can still go from regular to Pure Horse and possibly the other way around. (Your clan can't, but your people don't seem to think it's as implausible as building a city, for example. It's just a bad idea for you in particular because [s]the game isn't set up for it[/s] you would have to have slaves and your ancestors would be Very Unhappy.)
If we ever had a connection at all, yes. The only real connection we have with Prax is via Hyalor's dad Yamsur, but there's basically nothing written about him in the first place. You could make some sort of presumption that that means that riding, as a technological breakthrough, happened in Genert's Garden and came to Dara Happa via human immigration but its all just guesswork.
Yelorna is referred to by Praxians as one of the Invader deities, alongside Yelmalio and other assoiciated sun and star gods, so worship of her doesn't seem to be native, or at least isn't recognized as such by the third age.
Also, just in general, if we assume that gloranthan gods are real and have an existence outside of their current worshipers, it shouldn't be impossible for the same deity to show up in multiple cultures independently, even with different names.
But she does fill the same niche as Osara and Vinga, an outlet for women constrained by a patriarchal expectation of what their lives should be. I think we will probably be able to make a better case for that when the Gods and Goddesses of Glorantha book comes out.
(and hard yes, I cannot disagree with OP. Riders FTW.)
That may've been what was tripping me up--I thought that the dark/fire/water points were from picking Argan Argar or Heler as a god or Beren and Redalda as ancestors. I expect I was making a lot of Orlanth-like choices in some of the areas I didn't think were directly relevant. (Ah, is there a list of which actions give which points anywhere?)
https://www.glorantha.com/site-apps/clan/sartar.html#choices
https://www.glorantha.com/site-apps/clan/pavis.html#results
there's also the pdf version that they put up for free download download[www.drivethrurpg.com] but that, again, doesn't have the math part of it. I'm not sure if that they ever made available without the book.
But on the other hand, where is my healing goddess heroquest? I wanna be part of the coolness that is Erissa, just like I was with Chalana Arroy in KODP. C'mon, A Sharp. Lemme give Erissa a tub of icecream. We'll sit in the story tent and ♥♥♥♥♥ about men. It'll be great.