rework katalina now

[SakuraROCK]

this thing is the gunlance in MHrise.
a piece of ♥♥♥♥
and they even fix its ability cancel, perfect

[Kraivathin]

switch to other character ? I main Zeta and I wouldn't even complain how useless she i in Luifer's fight.

[Decoy]

A rando kata main helped us clear lucilius under 5 mins (best is 4:32), for 5 consecutive runs. Other rando matchmaking runs without kata, the best we had is 5:22

[Kraivathin]

Originally posted by Decoy:

A rando kata main helped us clear lucilius under 5 mins (best is 4:32), for 5 consecutive runs. Other rando matchmaking runs without kata, the best we had is 5:22

wow, what would your time be with Vane in a party then.

[Xaelon]

Originally posted by Moscini:

Originally posted by Xaelon:

Can you give me some tips on how to play Kat?

I tried playing her for a day but couldn't get the hang of maintaining Ares. When you need to build gauge what attack string do you use?

I'd be interested in hearing what traits you use too.

Get stout heart. That single sigil is really what makes katalina playable. because the way things are, once you get ares out you absolutely don't want to drop it because some random little swing interrupted you. That also lets you run steel nerves with 100% uptime, which plus her natural defense boosts under ares makes you very capable of facetanking some absurd hits.
Besides that, if you're having to manually build up ares, your normal strings should be xxxy -> xy -> xxxy -> xy. Any of the xxxy strings can be replaced with a skill into finisher, or link attack. you can use skills to get into ares faster when needed but generally want to be having your skills up to maintain ares once you have it out. Invest in quick cooldown and cascade since alot of her attacks are multi hit and you can generally keep ares out for 100% of the times when it matters. azure blade is what you'll use for times where you don't have a chance to setup before a burst window or when you need to maintain ares in periods where you can't afford to just facetank. There's a really good katalina guide off the granblue discord I'd recommend if you really wanna learn more though, it helped me a bunch. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0dX978tdWAsxR2371zoXkKVYd0FvmoSYWyQz3z3F2I/edit#heading=h.d5qmsqxih9e4

Originally posted by vatto.dev:

Yeah, kat is in a tough spot. Answering Xaelon, Kat requires 3 attack skills (ice dart, dash attack and the ares summon) to keep ares up. But you cannot stop attacking with Y to keep it up. When the Y combo ends, use one of the skills and go back to Y. So her build requires stout heart to even work. You can't even dodge.

Thank you both for the info.

I completely forgot about those Stout Heart sigils because I never bought them. I never needed to get them because the characters I play tend to have other ways to avoid getting interrupted.

I'll grab those and take a look at the guide you linked.

[JDlightside]

I don't like that Katalina basically has to facetank any damage the comes her way to not lose Ares, yet she barely gets any defensive buffs to actually allow her to do so.

[NeonGrim]

Originally posted by Kraivathin:

switch to other character ? I main Zeta and I wouldn't even complain how useless she i in Luifer's fight.

I main Zeta also, but in my opinion, the ground explosions and some other stuff in this fight make her a bit of a detriment against lucilius. Since she no longer has her double loop tech, the timing for arvess hammer can be rather tight at times and she no longer can stun as fast. In an online setting, she basically brings nothing to the table.

I understand that it was a bug, but it felt really good to use, having to only loop twice instead of 3 times, for a fully charged arvess hammer in exchange for higher execution difficulty, was really nice. DPS stayed the same, but she was able to apply stun and her debuff faster.

For this fight, I just switched to vane. But I first soloed it with Zeta and AI allies and now I'm just farming with vane and friends. Funny thing is, its seems that in this game I'm only playing blonds.

[Fazeball]

anyone whining about katalina after the bugfix should be forced to play ghandagoza for 100 hours...

[Varagonax]

Yeah uh, gunlance is one of the strongest weapon types in MHW and MHR. Its nutty, albeit boring.

I never played Kat before but something tells me your issues with Kat aren't related to the animation cancel exploit we all figured was going to be nerfed. Probably a skill issue (which I HATE SAYING), if I had to guess. Not good enough at the standard kit.