Lucilius fight a big disappointment

[Kriss Hietala]

This fight is even more annoying than Proto bahamut... Maybe devs only play as a Rackam for playtests? And level 200 when we can only go to 100...This literally unplayable. Worst patch ever.

[Little_Five]

Originally posted by Nepnep:

I beat it in three and just posted an entire guide on how to deal with most of the boss' attacks. Git gud.

If you are with the players, you are talking nonsense; if you are with the AI, you are criticizing yourself. You failed the logic exam no matter what.

[Little_Five]

Originally posted by Ren O'the Blade:

Originally posted by Little_Five:

If the AI is indifferent to the 12 labors, it can only mean one thing and that is that you did the same thing: nothing. The AI will only start acting after you start a mechanic (for example: stepping on a circle).

I step on the 1st circle I can get to, as fast as I can, and every circle after that, attack the feathers and the swords as quick as I spot them, except on each real attempt I have tried cannot do it fast enough, the time is too tight, I do not have access to a terminus weapon on the characters who can press one button and get halfway across the map instantly and I should not have to kill Bahamut the requisite 200 times to get a terminus weapon on every character till I can field a whole team with them, I got and maxed two of them.

What you need is to step on the outermost circle instead of the nearest one. Don't expect the AI to catch up with the outermost circles which are faster than the character's sprint speed, or know how to reverse intercept.
However, it is still better than those random players who have no idea what they are doing and are sent flying into the sky by purple rings.

[Polaire]

more tp, more color, more visual effect, AI fight, RNG Hits... not a big fan, but the music is cool

[Sigma993]

Originally posted by Stj.Srex:

I manage to beat him but fight is not fun, its just boring. Reward you get for fight is just miserable not worth at all. If you could get Sup + then that would be worth. I will just try to get 10 Tears of Apocalypse and 20 Dark Residue to buy 2 sigils for normal attack damage and i most likely wont fight him anymore since its just boring. They had perfect fight with Versa so they should just try to do something like that.

Honestly I do not like that fight that much as well, mostly bc he's just constantly teleporting and spamming attacks.
Solo'ing Fatalis and Alatreon in MHW when they came out was way harder than dealing with Lucilius but it also was so much more fun bc these monsters were in your face.
Also in MHW you got awesome rewards, can't say the same for Lucilius.
I'll probably do a few more runs but I don't see myself farming this guy as well!

[Ren O'the Blade]

Originally posted by Little_Five:

Originally posted by Ren O'the Blade:

I step on the 1st circle I can get to, as fast as I can, and every circle after that, attack the feathers and the swords as quick as I spot them, except on each real attempt I have tried cannot do it fast enough, the time is too tight, I do not have access to a terminus weapon on the characters who can press one button and get halfway across the map instantly and I should not have to kill Bahamut the requisite 200 times to get a terminus weapon on every character till I can field a whole team with them, I got and maxed two of them.

What you need is to step on the outermost circle instead of the nearest one. Don't expect the AI to catch up with the outermost circles which are faster than the character's sprint speed, or know how to reverse intercept.
However, it is still better than those random players who have no idea what they are doing and are sent flying into the sky by purple rings.

I am not sure this will help me enough, but I honestly appreciate the input and implement next time, I just cant do the feather phase either, it seems it was not meant for anything other that characters that can get to them super fast or ranged, the captain is neither. But again not to sound ungrateful, appreciate the help.

[TL]

Lucilius hard with more player
but with bot is Easy and good for Practice
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3183195515
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3183202050

[Little_Five]

Originally posted by Ren O'the Blade:

I am not sure this will help me enough, but I honestly appreciate the input and implement next time, I just cant do the feather phase either, it seems it was not meant for anything other that characters that can get to them super fast or ranged, the captain is neither. But again not to sound ungrateful, appreciate the help.

In the feather phase, you need to observe the distribution of AI teammates. They will usually attack the feather closest to them. Go deal with the remaining feather. Or choose a character with a charge skill to deal with two, clean up the feathers closest to you and return to the strategy mentioned before.

Choosing a ranged character to clean up all the feathers yourself is most robust, however enjoy the trash locking mechanic.

Ranged AI that are not fully equipped are of little use here as they will prioritize dodging lasers and not have enough time to clean their feathers. Especially charge characters like Io and Rackham.

The key is not to die at this phase, otherwise the AI will run to save you regardless of anything else. That's bye bye.

[Bramuk]

People are afk farming him with AI.

[Ren O'the Blade]

My problem is I have neither a good charge attack character or ranged, I can try to run to another map my teamates aren't near and see if that works, still cannot get past the circle phase either, though I got close going for the furthest circle, I was down to the last batch when I ran out of time, I just think this fight is too overtuned, they just need to add a little extra time for the 12 labors and the fight will be ok, I know at some point we will be able to just pop into online and be carried, but I really do not like being carried.

[BB Mouse]

Originally posted by (deleted):

Originally posted by King T:

What rewards do you get anyways? Is there a reason to farm this?

A better damage cap sigil that has 2nd trait to increase even more damage cap. (alpha/beta/gamma).
I have tested out the sigil, it is powerful but extremely tough to use as a pair (there's another perk at trait level 30) because everytime you increase damage cap, you also need to increase ATK % alongside with it.
My Eugen grenade now hit past 500k on a lv11 gamma sigil, previously was 420k sigils at lv15. Maybe get 4, equip one on each party member.

That's a good info, except he is the strongest boss who, from many posts, say you need to gear up with some defense. There is only 12 spots for sigils. So you probably need these new sigils for this particular fights, after you grind him with lowered dps ('cause you swap out some dps for defense sigils), and then you slowly swap in these new sigils to replace your old dmg cap sigil to increase the grind speed for this boss. I can tell it's gonna be a long process. This is actually a decision point to whether or not continue playing this game. This is it for completionist if they can't do it. Just like some MMO, suddenly they introduce some crazy raid boss that require organized team works and then that results in killing off solo players. Nothing new.

[Ren O'the Blade]

Originally posted by Daddy:

People are afk farming him with AI.

Not buying this.

[Nepnep]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Originally posted by Nepnep:

I beat it in three and just posted an entire guide on how to deal with most of the boss' attacks. Git gud.



Effort -> drop rate for those are abysmal. Might as well Azurite it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3182866115

Can't use Azurite

well fruitcakes D:

[Ren O'the Blade]

Originally posted by BB Mouse:

Originally posted by (deleted):

A better damage cap sigil that has 2nd trait to increase even more damage cap. (alpha/beta/gamma).
I have tested out the sigil, it is powerful but extremely tough to use as a pair (there's another perk at trait level 30) because everytime you increase damage cap, you also need to increase ATK % alongside with it.
My Eugen grenade now hit past 500k on a lv11 gamma sigil, previously was 420k sigils at lv15. Maybe get 4, equip one on each party member.

That's a good info, except he is the strongest boss who, from many posts, say you need to gear up with some defense. There is only 12 spots for sigils. So you probably need these new sigils for this particular fights, after you grind him with lowered dps ('cause you swap out some dps for defense sigils), and then you slowly swap in these new sigils to replace your old dmg cap sigil to increase the grind speed for this boss. I can tell it's gonna be a long process. This is actually a decision point to whether or not continue playing this game. This is it for completionist if they can't do it. Just like some MMO, suddenly they introduce some crazy raid boss that require organized team works and then that results in killing off solo players. Nothing new.

This has been my fear for this game, it was already pretty bad with the RNG on Terminus weapons and the silly grind to get all the mats to even max one of them, now a boss with mechanics that require you to be near perfect to solo pops in.

[Nepnep]

Originally posted by Daddy:

People are afk farming him with AI.

Those that afk farm this are cheating no doubt. The AI's aren't smart enough to deal with gimmicks and will spend more time reviving you than doing anything about it.

[Little_Five]

Originally posted by Ren O'the Blade:

My problem is I have neither a good charge attack character or ranged, I can try to run to another map my teamates aren't near and see if that works, still cannot get past the circle phase either, though I got close going for the furthest circle, I was down to the last batch when I ran out of time, I just think this fight is too overtuned, they just need to add a little extra time for the 12 labors and the fight will be ok, I know at some point we will be able to just pop into online and be carried, but I really do not like being carried.

This is a highly difficult end-game content. The proto Bahamut, which is harmless to everyone, is still there waiting for you to farm.