Worth awakening ascension weapons?

[ShouteN]

Topic? I mean its just another grind.

[Suzaku]

Only if you intend to use it to aid in unlocking that character's terminus weapon. Otherwise, just getting it to level 150 for the mastery is enough.

[さまよう侍]

Yes, I like the glow on them more than Terminus; I use them on Zeta, Yordaha and Rosetta. And you can use them as weapon skin, too. So, while using Terminus with Ascenssion skin, you get the skin + glow of Ascension weapon. Both Yordaha and Zeta glow red flame. Rostetta get green glow and Io get white glow on her staff.

[XartaX]

Well they have trophies involved if you're a completionist. Besides that if you got terminus you might as well skip (terminus only requires max level weapons I think, not ascended). But if you don't have terminus and you want to play the character it's pretty much mandatory if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability for bahamut.

[L:D]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Well they have trophies involved if you're a completionist. Besides that if you got terminus you might as well skip (terminus only requires max level weapons I think, not ascended). But if you don't have terminus and you want to play the character it's pretty much mandatory if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability for bahamut.

It's not mandatory, you can solo Proto with 3 AI using the crit weapons.

[XartaX]

Originally posted by L:D:

Originally posted by XartaX:

Well they have trophies involved if you're a completionist. Besides that if you got terminus you might as well skip (terminus only requires max level weapons I think, not ascended). But if you don't have terminus and you want to play the character it's pretty much mandatory if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability for bahamut.

It's not mandatory, you can solo Proto with 3 AI using the crit weapons.

Have fun spending 10x the time you need to.

[Cel]

I'm only do that for skin lol

[L:D]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Originally posted by L:D:

It's not mandatory, you can solo Proto with 3 AI using the crit weapons.

Have fun spending 10x the time you need to.

You can beat Proto with 10-12 minutes with crit weapons. And doing with AI is just an supposition, since you can easily can join any matchmake and beat it by the half of the time.
It's great that you disagree, but your answer is not good enough to make people believe that wasting their time into leveling ascension weapon is worth it. In fact, having the double time in Proto is still better than farming for ascension mats.

[XartaX]

Originally posted by L:D:

Originally posted by XartaX:

Have fun spending 10x the time you need to.

You can beat Proto with 10-12 minutes with crit weapons. And doing with AI is just an supposition, since you can easily can join any matchmake and beat it by the half of the time.
It's great that you disagree, but your answer is not good enough to make people believe that wasting their time into leveling ascension weapon is worth it. In fact, having the double time in Proto is still better than farming for ascension mats.

You should be able to max out an ascension weapon in an hour or two if you're unlucky. You could easily be spending dozens of hours without getting the terminus weapon for your character with a bahamut clear speed of like 3-5 minutes.

And of course you can get carried, hence my original statement "if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability".

[L:D]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Originally posted by L:D:

You can beat Proto with 10-12 minutes with crit weapons. And doing with AI is just an supposition, since you can easily can join any matchmake and beat it by the half of the time.
It's great that you disagree, but your answer is not good enough to make people believe that wasting their time into leveling ascension weapon is worth it. In fact, having the double time in Proto is still better than farming for ascension mats.

You should be able to max out an ascension weapon in an hour or two if you're unlucky. You could easily be spending dozens of hours without getting the terminus weapon for your character with a bahamut clear speed of like 3-5 minutes.

And of course you can get carried, hence my original statement "if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability".

Damn, i wonder where you farming, 23 silver centrum in a hour is kinda crazy. And that's one thing from the 32 individual materials the weapon requires.

And at this time of the game, if you are a "new player", you'll be a liability or be carried anyway. There's no way to compare ascension with full geared players.

But hey, if it's good for you then it's good for you. I just hope people don't realize that 23 silver centrum is more than half that an terminus weapon needs and they just wasted in ascension for no reason. :D

[XartaX]

Originally posted by L:D:

Originally posted by XartaX:

You should be able to max out an ascension weapon in an hour or two if you're unlucky. You could easily be spending dozens of hours without getting the terminus weapon for your character with a bahamut clear speed of like 3-5 minutes.

And of course you can get carried, hence my original statement "if you don't want to be carried through/be a liability".

Damn, i wonder where you farming, 23 silver centrum in a hour is kinda crazy. And that's one thing from the 32 individual materials the weapon requires.

And at this time of the game, if you are a "new player", you'll be a liability or be carried anyway. There's no way to compare ascension with full geared players.

But hey, if it's good for you then it's good for you. I just hope people don't realize that 23 silver centrum is more than half that an terminus weapon needs and they just wasted in ascension for no reason. :D

If you've been doing the quests while going through the campaign you should have almost every single mat you need already besides maybe a few boss drops. A SECOND ascension weapon would take a bit longer, but not your first.

As for Silver Centrums, you can kill Golemology 103 in like 30 seconds and it can drop it. In addition to dropping 2 guaranteed Crowning Parapets which you can trade in for more silver centrums if you want to.

[brunolm]

The grind for ascension weapons is nothing. The hard grind comes if you want to be absolutely powerful.

[ShouteN]

Thanks for answers at some point I dont know if I am going for terminus, since I think it takes forever to get there. Also I am playing only with AI so as I understand it takes even longer to kill proto bahamut and it seems just waste of time.

Dont know why but it just dont hook me that much. I loved grind in every single aRPG and monster hunter game, but here every fight is the same, nothing changes, just the numbers.

[L:D]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Originally posted by L:D:

Damn, i wonder where you farming, 23 silver centrum in a hour is kinda crazy. And that's one thing from the 32 individual materials the weapon requires.

And at this time of the game, if you are a "new player", you'll be a liability or be carried anyway. There's no way to compare ascension with full geared players.

But hey, if it's good for you then it's good for you. I just hope people don't realize that 23 silver centrum is more than half that an terminus weapon needs and they just wasted in ascension for no reason. :D

If you've been doing the quests while going through the campaign you should have almost every single mat you need already besides maybe a few boss drops. A SECOND ascension weapon would take a bit longer, but not your first.

As for Silver Centrums, you can kill Golemology 103 in like 30 seconds and it can drop it. In addition to dropping 2 guaranteed Crowning Parapets which you can trade in for more silver centrums if you want to.

No, you absolutely not. Do you know why? Because the weapon requires Versa materials to max out. And this is considering that the player is doing quests besides going straight to the end game.
And i don't think you are understanding the simple point where even with max ascension you're still a liability on multiplayer, so why are you wasting materials on an weapon when you could simple use crit weapon anyway? And even if you want to go with AI, if you don't plan to get 4 max ascension to play with npcs because, "killing Proto takes 10x more time" why are you even bothering?

You also don't farm Golem at 30 seconds when you considering if you should level up ascension weapons to begin with. Even if you have an max ascension, you most likely not getting 30 second kills consistently. Sometimes i farm Golem afk with 3 AI full gear, including terminus weapons, and they still take around 1 min to kill it because they can't stunlock it to death.
And you just forgetting to mention that you need 12 Crowning Parapets, and on top of that, 12 Broken Savage Sword for a single silver centrum. When you realize that you're "forgetting" to mention couple of things, your math on how much time/reason you need to max an ascension start to crumble apart.

And i just want to reiterate that this conversation started when i said that the weapon is not mandatory and you don't take x10 times to kill Proto. And so far, you failed to tell me how the weapon is mandatory and how you take x10 to kill Proto with crit weapons.
It's great that you are circling around trying to find anything to be right, but it doesn't change the fact that ascension will still be not mandatory.

[Doctrine Dark]

Originally posted by ShouteN:

Thanks for answers at some point I dont know if I am going for terminus, since I think it takes forever to get there. Also I am playing only with AI so as I understand it takes even longer to kill proto bahamut and it seems just waste of time.

Not a waste of time and doesn't take that long just check your and the AI's builds. If your build is bad and your AI build is bad than proto seems hard.

[ShouteN]

Originally posted by Doctrine Dark:

Originally posted by ShouteN:

Thanks for answers at some point I dont know if I am going for terminus, since I think it takes forever to get there. Also I am playing only with AI so as I understand it takes even longer to kill proto bahamut and it seems just waste of time.

Not a waste of time and doesn't take that long just check your and the AI's builds. If your build is bad and your AI build is bad than proto seems hard.

Thanks. But i guess my biggest problem is nothing changes, just the speed you are killing everything. No new ultimate skill effects/new skills nothing. After 30 hours I am just bored of the same 4 characters. And as far as I understand I have to put 30-50 hours more to max out those 4.

Edit: in my personal opinion I think they did a mistake with such grind. They have so many characters to play with and quite a lot of people are not going to even experience them due to game nature. But at the same time I do understand why some people like to grind it.